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The inclusive R
Much is being made of the intrusive "r", e.g. saying "I saw-rit" for I saw it". Is it also considered poor diction to omit the "r" where it does exist? For example, our local BBC TV newsreader will say "40 year-old" without pronouncing the "r", making his speech sound stilted and affected. The French have a rule that end-consonants that are not pronounced when the word stands on its own, ARE pronounced when the following word begins with a vowel to make the sentence flow better. Surely this is also acceptable in English?
David.
David.
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g. saying "I saw-rit" for I saw it". Is it also considered ...
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- saying "I saw-rit" for I saw it".
- Is it also considered ...
- the following word begins with a vowel to make the sentence flow better.
- [/nq] Do you find the "r" missing from his "forty" stilted and affected, too?
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[nq:1]Much is being made of the intrusive "r", e.g. saying "I saw-rit" for I saw it". Is it also considered ... the following word begins with a vowel to make the sentence flow better. Surely this is also acceptable in English?[/nq]
Do you find the "r" missing from his "forty" stilted and affected, too?
johnF
" it would be a gross error to suppose that any deviation from the estab
Do you find the "r" missing from his "forty" stilted and affected, too?
johnF
" it would be a gross error to suppose that any deviation from the estab
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[nq:1]Much is being made of the intrusive "r", e.g. saying "I saw-rit" for I saw it". Is it also considered ... the following word begins witha vowel to make the sentence flow better. Surely this is also acceptable in English? David.[/nq]
I have a friend from New England (RI) that would say something more along the lines of "I sore-rit". Of course, she also calls the water fountain a "bubbler"
I have a friend from New England (RI) that would say something more along the lines of "I sore-rit". Of course, she also calls the water fountain a "bubbler"
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[nq:1]Much is being made of the intrusive "r", e.g. saying "I saw-rit" for I saw it". Is it also considered ... the following word begins with a vowel to make the sentence flow better. Surely this is also acceptable in English?[/nq]
Much? This is the first I've seen here. But perhaps a better example is "drawing", which throughout my lifetime I have occasionally heard as "draw-ring". English s
Much? This is the first I've seen here. But perhaps a better example is "drawing", which throughout my lifetime I have occasionally heard as "draw-ring". English s
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[nq:1]Much is being made of the intrusive "r", e.g. saying "I saw-rit" for I saw it". Is it also considered ... the following word begins with a vowel to make the sentence flow better. Surely this is also acceptable in English?[/nq]
German has an opposing convention - words which start with a vowel are given an initial glottal stop.
'Tis the season of "For Runto Wuss a Child is Born" and "
German has an opposing convention - words which start with a vowel are given an initial glottal stop.
'Tis the season of "For Runto Wuss a Child is Born" and "
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[nq:1]Much is being made of the intrusive "r", e.g. saying "I saw-rit" for I saw it". Is it also considered poor diction to omit the "r" where it does exist?[/nq]
It's not "poor diction" to say "I saw rit".
[nq:1]For example, our local BBC TV newsreader will say "40 year-old" without pronouncing the "r", making his speech sound stilted ... when the following word begins witha vowel to make
It's not "poor diction" to say "I saw rit".
[nq:1]For example, our local BBC TV newsreader will say "40 year-old" without pronouncing the "r", making his speech sound stilted ... when the following word begins witha vowel to make
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Are we talking about diction (word choice, as in "dictionary") or pronuncitation?
[nq:2]word stands on its own, ARE pronounced when the following word beginswith[/nq]
[nq:1]a[/nq]
[nq:2]vowel to make the sentence flow better. Surely this is also acceptablein English?[/nq]
How so?
[nq:2]word stands on its own, ARE pronounced when the following word beginswith[/nq]
[nq:1]a[/nq]
[nq:2]vowel to make the sentence flow better. Surely this is also acceptablein English?[/nq]
How so?
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[nq:1]Are we talking about diction (word choice, as in "dictionary") or pronuncitation?[/nq]
We're talking about top-posting, frank. How quickly you forget your manners.
Bob Lieblich
Enjoyed "pronuncitation," but suspect it's just a typo
We're talking about top-posting, frank. How quickly you forget your manners.
Bob Lieblich
Enjoyed "pronuncitation," but suspect it's just a typo
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[nq:1]It's not "poor diction" to say "I saw rit".[/nq]
I agree. When someone says "draw-ring," it has nothing to do with enunciation. Frankly, I don't understand how anyone can find that offensive (and I'm a rhotic speaker).
Mike Bandy
I agree. When someone says "draw-ring," it has nothing to do with enunciation. Frankly, I don't understand how anyone can find that offensive (and I'm a rhotic speaker).
Mike Bandy
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