'the' in definition

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I don't know how I can understand 'the' in the definition of a word 'scaffolding' below.

This'll be a test to me for my previous posts about the

------ Scaffolding means an interactional support from the teacher or more competent language learners that enables less competent language learners to perform a task at a level beyond their present competence. --------

1. What if the teacher is replaced to a teacher or teachers?

The teacher makes us think of a teacher in middle or high school teacher?

If we put a teacher or teachers, we think of a teacher working in school we don't know(or can't guess) because they are not specific?

2. The reason the is not added for learners is we don't know how they are competent(or don't know where they study?) i.e) Why not the learners?

Very confusing^^;

Ivanhr · Accepted Answer

1. You can use "the teacher", "a teacher" or "teachers" without changing the meaning of that sentence. "The teacher" there is used to generalize so the sentence doesn't speak about a specific teacher.

2. "The learners" is impossible when generalizing. However, when you talk about a specific group of learners then it's ok to say "the learners".

In conclusion, "the teacher, a teacher and teachers" are all possible when generalizing but "the teachers/learners" can only be used when talking about specific teachers and learners. The one exception to this rule is that a nationality noun can be used this way. (for instance The Americans are hard working people; this is a general statement about the American nation and still you can use the plural )

Avangi · Answer

moon7296support from the teacher or more competent language learners

moon7296The reason the is not added for learners is we don't know how they are competent. . . . . Why not the learners?

There are many teachers and many learners. We say "The teacher does this; the learner does that." I don't see any difference between them. Both can be general or specific. The fact that you may have a single teacher and multiple learners in a given room is not relevant.

The reason "the" is not added in front of "learners" in the first sentence is that it has three modifiers in front of it. There would be nothing wrong with adding "the" prior to the three modifiers:
. . . . support from the teacher or the more competent language learner(s).

I think it's actually more clear with the "the."

Maybe I'm missing something.

Regards, - A.

CalifJim · Answer

moon7296Scaffolding means an interactional support from the teacher ...

As an isolated sentence, a teacher or teachers also makes sense as part of an abstract definition of scaffolding, because all of these forms can be used to create a generic reference, but I suspect that the text that precedes this sentence describes classroom activities in general.

Once it is established in the text that the scene is a classroom, we expect there to be a single teacher in that classroom who guides all the activities of the students. the teacher is thus the (one and only) teacher in such a classroom.

moon7296more competent language learners

the more competent language learners is also possible. The use of the presents the situation as if we (or the teacher) know(s) which learners are the competent ones. The omission of the presumes only that there are some more competent language learners but it's not important for the purposes of our discussion to know which ones they are.

CJ

Moon7296 · Answer

Thank you so much.

I now see the differences clearly^^

Moon7296 · Answer

Thank you so much for your long answer.

I've found more ideas from yours on top of others^^

Moon7296 · Answer

Thank you again for the keen in-sight of my question.

All three answerers' answers come in very good points, I think

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