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Park sang joon Posted 12 years ago
Grammar
The gerund qualified by 'the', taking an object
One of the major embarrassments to which lectures are submitted is the audience's looking at their watches. I once asked John Erskine if he found the ordeal particularly trying.
"No, he replied, "Nnot until they start shaking the!"
1) I know any gerund taking an object isn't qualified by 'the'; the phrase "the audience's looking at their watches" is grammatical?
2) he found the ordeal particularly trying
a) he get to know the ordeal which is particularly trying.
b) he think of the ordeal as particularly trying.
Which meaning should I interpret #2 as? - a or b
3) Is 'Nnot' the form stressing 'not'?
Thank you in advance for your help.
"No, he replied, "Nnot until they start shaking the!"
1) I know any gerund taking an object isn't qualified by 'the'; the phrase "the audience's looking at their watches" is grammatical?
2) he found the ordeal particularly trying
a) he get to know the ordeal which is particularly trying.
b) he think of the ordeal as particularly trying.
Which meaning should I interpret #2 as? - a or b
3) Is 'Nnot' the form stressing 'not'?
Thank you in advance for your help.
Top answer
park sang joon 1) I know any gerund taking an object isn't qualified by 'the'; You know that, do you? I've never heard that rule. park sang joon the phrase "the audience's looking at their watches" is grammatical?
- park sang joon 1) I know any gerund taking an object isn't qualified by 'the'; You know that, do you?
- I've never heard that rule.
- park sang joon the phrase "the audience's looking at their watches" is grammatical?
- It is.
- "the" goes with "audience", not with "looking".
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park sang joon1) I know any gerund taking an object isn't qualified by 'the';You know that, do you? I've never heard that rule.
park sang joonthe phrase "the audience's looking at their watches" is grammatical?It is. "the" goes with "audience", not with "looking".
park sang joon2) he found the ord
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Thank you Mr.Jim for your concrete answer and correction of typo.
You know that, do you? I've never heard that rule.
I have read that rule in a grammar book the name of which I have forgotten.
See the sentences below I had put down on a note a long while ago.
They supplemented foraging by the hunting sea mammals. [X]
They supplemented foraging by hunting sea
You know that, do you? I've never heard that rule.
I have read that rule in a grammar book the name of which I have forgotten.
See the sentences below I had put down on a note a long while ago.
They supplemented foraging by the hunting sea mammals. [X]
They supplemented foraging by hunting sea
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park sang joonI have read that rule in a grammar book the name of which I have forgotten.OK. Here's the relevant comment from my last post.
"the" goes with "audience", not with "looking".
In other words, the rule does not apply to the example we're talking about because the gerund is preceded by a posses
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park sang joonHe experienced the ordeal as particularly trying. Does the word 'find' have the meaning like 'experience' too?Yes, but without "as".
He found the procedure painful.
He experienced the procedure as painful.
The pattern with 'found' is much more common.
'experienced ... as' doesn't even paraphrase 'found' very well in al
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Thank you Mr.Jim for your concrete answer 
Is your calling a teacher?; you have very good teaching skill.
Is your calling a teacher?; you have very good teaching skill.
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park sang joonIs your calling a teacher?Yes, but I'm retired, so I don't do much teaching anymore except on the forum.
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I think you would have been a good teacher.
I always appreciate your kind and concrete accounts
I always appreciate your kind and concrete accounts
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