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Healer Posted 14 years ago
Grammar

The ambiguity of the possessive case

We often heard a person is tried for "someone's murder" where it would suggest that the "someone has been murdered". When will it also allude that the someone is the one who has murdered not has been murdered? A student's graduation means the student graduates or he or she to be graduated, though to gradute rather than to be graduated is more likely what it means and in this case the ambiguity unlike the previous example would not constitute any major difference.

In this type of scenario, the English language is not clear-cut. Very often, it relies on the context which is not always available at a glance. I have come across a lot of these examples which I can't recall more right now.

So when the word after the apostrophe 's' is a verbal noun, which sense are we supposed to take, be active of the first person or be passive of the third person, as in the example above, to murder or to be murdered?

I will apreciate some comments to verify my understanding, to affirm or to correct my thinking.
  

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healer So when the word after the apostrophe 's' is a verbal noun, which sense are we supposed to take, be active of the first I think that you will often have to rely on context to elicit the intended meaning. While "his murder" might be ambiguous, "his murder of innocent civilians" is certainly not. Don't blame English for this.

  • healer So when the word after the apostrophe 's' is a verbal noun, which sense are we supposed to take, be active of the first I think that you will often have to rely on context to elicit the intended meaning.
  • While "his murder" might be ambiguous, "his murder of innocent civilians" is certainly not.
  • Don't blame English for this.
  • Context is important in every language.
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healerSo when the word after the apostrophe 's' is a verbal noun, which sense are we supposed to take, be active of the first
I think that you will often have to rely on context to elicit the intended meaning. While "his murder" might be ambiguous, "his murder of innocent civilians" is certainly not. Don't blame English for this. Context is important in every
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healerSo when the word after the apostrophe 's' is a verbal noun, which sense are we supposed to take
Occasionally, the construction really is ambiguous, and you don't know which sense to take, but here a few observations on the general topic of genitive constructions.

A genitive construction can be subjective or objective.

In the subjective
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In fact, all both of you said quite agreed with what I had concluded before I posted this question of mine. However, having asked and got your comments has affirmed my thinking.

I also incline to avoid using apostrophe 's' when the subject is an inanimate thing. I would prefer to say the legs of a table, not a table's legs.

From the examples of CJ: the fear of the manager could
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healerI would prefer to say the legs of a table, not a table's legs.
Don't forget that there is a third choice: table legs.

CJ
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Thanks for reminding me.

In fact, I remember this sort of structure using noun as an adjective or an attributive can also be ambiguous. I can't think of one instantly though. Perhaps I would give some when they occur to me.
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healerPerhaps I would give some when they occur to me.
OK. You'll be more likely to find the ambiguous ones if you look among those noun compounds that have three or more nouns together.

CJ

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