I can kind of decipher what the first sentence you posted means (before a particular example of x was y, there already existed z) but I have no idea what meaning you're trying to convey with the second sentence, so to the extent that the intention of writing is to convey meaning, your second sentence is incorrect. The way you formulated your question is not incorrect. " is a perfectly reasonable thing to say.
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