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Park sang joon Posted 12 years ago
Grammar
'that' expressing a result or degree
1) Minority voices can be heard sufficiently clearly that the prevailing majority opinion can be changed.
2) I slept enough that I was able to wake up in time.
3) The author believed that the phrases connected by 'and' were short enough that a comma was unnecessary to make the groupings of words clear.
4) Is the crown too heavy that I wear? (in "Moby Dick")
5) She started slipping and falling down when the photographer grabbed her but she was too heavy thathe couldn't pull her from the edge. (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...waterfall.html )
1. In the above sentences, all 'that' is used to express a result or degree as the structure 'so~that'; am I right?
2. In #3, the phrase "to make the groupings of words clear"express a degree as in "I'm sorry enough to kill myself."; am I right?
3. Do people use the structure 'too~that' as used in #4, #5?
Thank you in advance for your help
2) I slept enough that I was able to wake up in time.
3) The author believed that the phrases connected by 'and' were short enough that a comma was unnecessary to make the groupings of words clear.
4) Is the crown too heavy that I wear? (in "Moby Dick")
5) She started slipping and falling down when the photographer grabbed her but she was too heavy thathe couldn't pull her from the edge. (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...waterfall.html )
1. In the above sentences, all 'that' is used to express a result or degree as the structure 'so~that'; am I right?
2. In #3, the phrase "to make the groupings of words clear"express a degree as in "I'm sorry enough to kill myself."; am I right?
3. Do people use the structure 'too~that' as used in #4, #5?
Thank you in advance for your help
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1) For #1, #2 and #3, yes (I understand "as the structure 'so~that'" to mean "as in the structure 'so~that'"). e. "that" introduces a relative clause modifying "crown".
- 1) For #1, #2 and #3, yes (I understand "as the structure 'so~that'" to mean "as in the structure 'so~that'").
- e.
- "that" introduces a relative clause modifying "crown".
- #5 is not correct English.
- 2) I suppose it is similar.
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1) For #1, #2 and #3, yes (I understand "as the structure 'so~that'" to mean "as in the structure 'so~that'"). I read #4 as a less usual way to say "Is the crown that I wear too heavy?", i.e. "that" introduces a relative clause modifying "crown". #5 is not correct English.
2) I suppose it is similar. There is nothing in the "sorry enough" sentence directly equivalent to "a comma was unnec
2) I suppose it is similar. There is nothing in the "sorry enough" sentence directly equivalent to "a comma was unnec
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Thank you, GPY, for your visit and kind answer. 
#5 is not correct English.
As a matter of fact, I have seen the
#5 is not correct English.
As a matter of fact, I have seen the
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park sang joonAs a matter of fact, I have seen the structure 'too~that' on other sites several timesI would need to see the context of those other examples to judge. Offhand, though, I can't think of any valid examples of this pattern that could be seen as analogous to your sentence #5.
park sang joonI suppose it is ungrammatical but i
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By the way, while searching Google for further examples of the pattern, I noticed that you have posted the same question at http://forum.wordreference.com/showthread.php?t=2894042. I gather from previous discussions here that some members feel strongly that questions should not be cross-posted acro
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Thank you,GPY, for your advice and understanding. 
I do not personally object to it, but I do think it is courteous to
I do not personally object to it, but I do think it is courteous to
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