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Pructus Posted 11 years ago
Grammar
That clause
Hello....
that clause is a little complicated so I made it as a table below.
I presume that all the sentences are grammatical, only slightly different in nuances or meaning.
I’d like some comments....
A. know
1. I know that he leaves. = I know it as a dedided fact that he is going to leave, with or without his intention.
2. I know when he leaves. = I know the future time that he is going to leave, with or without his intention.
3. I know that he leaves tomorrow. = I know it as a dedided fact that he will leave tomorrow.
4. I know that he will leave. = He is willing to leave. or It is decided that he will leave.
5. I know that he will be leaving. = He will leave, not necessarily out of his intention.
6. I know if he leaves. = I know if he will leave or not, not not necessarily out of his intention.
7. I know if he will leave. = I know if he is going to leave, with or without his intention.
B. wonder
1. I wonder if he leaves. = I wonder if it is decided whether he is going to leave in the future.
2. I wonder if he will leave. = I wonder if he is willing to leave or if it is decided that he is going to leave.
C. take
— Both are correct.
1. I will take the first bus that comes.
2. I will take the first bus that will come.
D. the time
— Both are correct.
1. The time will come when you understand it.
2. The time will come when you will understand it.
that clause is a little complicated so I made it as a table below.
I presume that all the sentences are grammatical, only slightly different in nuances or meaning.
I’d like some comments....
A. know
1. I know that he leaves. = I know it as a dedided fact that he is going to leave, with or without his intention.
2. I know when he leaves. = I know the future time that he is going to leave, with or without his intention.
3. I know that he leaves tomorrow. = I know it as a dedided fact that he will leave tomorrow.
4. I know that he will leave. = He is willing to leave. or It is decided that he will leave.
5. I know that he will be leaving. = He will leave, not necessarily out of his intention.
6. I know if he leaves. = I know if he will leave or not, not not necessarily out of his intention.
7. I know if he will leave. = I know if he is going to leave, with or without his intention.
B. wonder
1. I wonder if he leaves. = I wonder if it is decided whether he is going to leave in the future.
2. I wonder if he will leave. = I wonder if he is willing to leave or if it is decided that he is going to leave.
C. take
— Both are correct.
1. I will take the first bus that comes.
2. I will take the first bus that will come.
D. the time
— Both are correct.
1. The time will come when you understand it.
2. The time will come when you will understand it.
Top answer
Dear Pructus, I'll take Section A only. 1. You need "he will leave" because you are referring to the future.
- Dear Pructus, I'll take Section A only.
- 1.
- You need "he will leave" because you are referring to the future.
- 2.
- Good.
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Dear Pructus,
I'll take Section A only.
1. You need "he will leave" because you are referring to the future.
2. Good.
3. Good. More common and natural - "is leaving" or "is going to leave".
4. Good but your first meaning (about "willing") is not right. Check the meaning of the adjective "willing".
5. Meaning is good but you need a time expres
I'll take Section A only.
1. You need "he will leave" because you are referring to the future.
2. Good.
3. Good. More common and natural - "is leaving" or "is going to leave".
4. Good but your first meaning (about "willing") is not right. Check the meaning of the adjective "willing".
5. Meaning is good but you need a time expres
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A. know
1. I know that he leaves on Monday. = I know it as a decided fact that he is going to leave, (with or without his intention).
You need to say when if you want to make this a good use of the pr
1. I know that he leaves on Monday. = I know it as a decided fact that he is going to leave, (with or without his intention).
You need to say when if you want to make this a good use of the pr
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I see... I see...
This is really helpful explanations, CJ...
The reason I was focused on "intention" is that I understand "will" is used in both "intention" and "future events". So, I felt I needed to make a distinction between the two usages. Reading your explanations, I thought, maybe I don't need to be so focused on it.
Thanks so much, CJ!!
This is really helpful explanations, CJ...
The reason I was focused on "intention" is that I understand "will" is used in both "intention" and "future events". So, I felt I needed to make a distinction between the two usages. Reading your explanations, I thought, maybe I don't need to be so focused on it.
Thanks so much, CJ!!
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How about if A-6 is changed to: I know if he leaves or not., from I know if he leaves.
Then, the sentence becomes good and grammatical and can mean I know if it is a decided fact that he is leaving in the future?
Then, the sentence becomes good and grammatical and can mean I know if it is a decided fact that he is leaving in the future?
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pructusHow about if A-6 is changed to: I know if he leaves or not., from I know if he leaves.Then, the sentence becomes good and grammaticalActually it doesn't become grammatical because it was already grammatical. You've just changed from one grammatical sentence to another grammatical sentence.
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Thanks again, CJ!!
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A - 6. I know if he leaves. = I know if he will leave or not, not not necessarily out of his intention.
I am always aware of his absence whenever he leaves.
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Understanding "I know if he leaves." to mean "I am always aware of his absence whenever he leaves." seems to take the structure as “If h
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A - 6. I know if he leaves. = I know if he will leave or not, not not necessarily out of his intention.
I am always aware of his absence whenever he leaves.
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Understanding "I know if he leaves." to mean "I am always aware of his absence whenever he leaves." seems to take the structure as “If h
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pructusUnderstanding "I know if he leaves." to mean "I am always aware of his absence whenever he leaves." seems to take the structure as “If he leaves, I know"Correct.
pructusIf this is so, then is your explanation like below?Even though "I know if he leaves." can mean “ I know if it is a decided fact that he is leaving in the future”
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After some thought....
I know that he leaves. can mean I know that he is leaving now?
Becaus the present tense can be used to refer to the ongoing situation?
And maybe this is why we need to say, I know that he will leave. or I know that he leaves on Monday.
I know that he leaves. can mean I know that he is leaving now?
Becaus the present tense can be used to refer to the ongoing situation?
And maybe this is why we need to say, I know that he will leave. or I know that he leaves on Monday.
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