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Kooyeen Posted 19 years ago
Speech & Pronunciation

TH + D, L, N, Z - With lemon

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00what happens to your tongue when you have to pronounce TH + D, N, Z, L, S, etc.?02br
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00My book says that TH and those kinds of sounds merge and the tongue is halfway between the two correct positions (for TH the tongue is on the edge of the upper teeth, for the other sounds it touches the roof of the mouth just behind the upper teeth). So "halfway" should be "touching the back of the upper teeth"...0-
  

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what happens to your tongue when ... It turns an ugly shade of blue-violet, twists into a figure 8, and falls off into my tea (with lemon). In my opinion your book must be cutting these distinctions very close, because none of this 'halfway' talk rings true to me.

  • what happens to your tongue when ...
  • It turns an ugly shade of blue-violet, twists into a figure 8, and falls off into my tea (with lemon).
  • In my opinion your book must be cutting these distinctions very close, because none of this 'halfway' talk rings true to me.
  • Unless I'm missing the point entirely, I say with the same regardless of the following sound.
  • It's a little more difficult before s and z , I admit, but for all practical purposes, it's always the same.
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what happens to your tongue when ...
It turns an ugly shade of blue-violet, twists into a figure 8, and falls off into my tea (with lemon).
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Hi Jim,
I'll post what she (the author) says:
When the TH combination connects with certain sounds, te two sounds blend together to form a composite sound. In the following examples, see how the TH moves back and the L moves forwars, to meet in a new middle position. Repeat after me:

th + l
-with lemon
th + n - with nachos
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I've been sitting here saying your list and I think I still say a normal th and 'next letter', not a blended new position, for the first part of your list.

I do notice a difference in the last three though, we it is the 'other letter' followed by 'th'. Then I do seem to go for a central blend.
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If I speak fast, I seem almost to skip the th sound for the first group of examples. This is not really very noticeable, if at all, when the following sound is l or n, however. And for the others, I have to be speaking very fast to get the skipping effect.

in the and hid those seem normal to me at all speeds. was that becomes wuz zat if
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Ok, thanks.
I'll just try to speak naturally, without thinking about what I actually do...
Thanks Emotion: smile

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