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tense - why wrong?

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00Please tell me why you think this is wrong. Does 'later' makes the past perfect good?02br
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00Yesterday we had eaten pizza but later ate sandwiches.0-
  

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0 The past perfect is not to be used for a definite point of time in the past (like yesterday).02br
00 The sentence can be revised as : Yesterday we had pizza and later sandwiches.0-
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0Your revision is good, but your absolute statement about not using past perfect for a time in the past is wrong. 02br
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01b00Yesterday02b00, we 01b00had 02b00just 01b00finished 02b00our lunch when the police stormed the house. They 01b00had mistaken 02b00our house for our neigbhors' an
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0Thank you Grammar Geek.02br
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00The past perfect is not to be used for a definite point of time in the past (like yesterday). Like it or not, I am afraid this is the rule.02br
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00I have come across a blog post titled 05000 which hopefully can do the necessary explanations.02br
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00Thanks again!.0230hrefhttp://keng
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0I see, 26.02br
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00So "Yesterday we had just finished our lunch when we learned we had won the lottery" is incorrect for you?0-
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0To comply with the rule, we need to revise a little: "01u00Yesterday02u00 we just 01u00finished02u00 our lunch when we learned we had won the lottery".02br
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00Thanks.0-
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0Hi,02br
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00Let's simplify the example a bit more.02br
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01b00Yesterday we had finished our lunch when Tom arrived.02b00 This is perfectly acceptable, and the Past Perfect makes the sequence of events clear.02br
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01b00Yesterday we finished our lunch when Tom arrived.02b00 This sounds like
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0 Here is  the 'blog' referred to:02br
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00"The High Court had on July 1, 2003, found theboy, then aged 12, guilty of murdering the 11-year-old girl at her house inSentul, Kuala Lumpur, by stabbing her 20 times with a sharp object on May 30,2002" in the news proper on page N8. Both instances have seen the use ofthe past perfect ten
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0Thank you, all.02br
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00Please tell me why this is wrong if it is indeed wrong. The sentence from the orignal post:02br
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00Yesterday we had eaten pizza but later ate sandwiches 0-
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01cite10Anonymous12cite10Please tell me why you think this is wrong. ... Yesterday we had eaten pizza but later ate sandwiches.12blockquote
10It is wrong because the events are being told in the order in which they occurred. A straight forward enumeration of the facts in the order in which they occurred does not no
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00Yesterday10, we 11b10had 12b10just 11b10finished 12b10our lunch when the police stormed the house.12blockquote
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01cite1026TMNTJG2PG12cite10The past perfect is not to be used for a definite point of time in the past (like yesterday)12b

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