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Hondaff Posted 13 years ago
Grammar

Take Meaning

I look up the definitions of 'take' in this dictionary, but none seems to fit the usages in the two examples.

http://bulk.resource.org/courts.gov/c/US/502/502.US.410.90-741.html
"Were this Court writing on a clean slate, it might be inclined to agree with Dewsnup that the quoted words must take the same meaning in § 506(d) as in § 506(a). "

http://wikieducator.org/Assessing_and_Evaluating_for_Learning/Aligning_and_Designing_Assessment_module
"You may have a particular understanding of the terminology used but the students may not take the same meaning from those words."

Also, I feel that 'take' is used differently in the two examples.
  

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hondaff "Were this Court writing on a clean slate, it might be inclined to agree with Dewsnup that the quoted words must take the same meaning in § 506(d) as in § 506(a). " Here "take" means 'have' or 'keep'. " Here "take" means 'get'.

— Canadian45

  • hondaff "Were this Court writing on a clean slate, it might be inclined to agree with Dewsnup that the quoted words must take the same meaning in § 506(d) as in § 506(a).
  • " Here "take" means 'have' or 'keep'.
  • " Here "take" means 'get'.
  • The words that I chose to explain "take" are somewhat arbitrary, and others may choose different words to represent the meanings of "take".
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hondaff"Were this Court writing on a clean slate, it might be inclined to agree with Dewsnup that the quoted words must take the same meaning in § 506(d) as in § 506(a). " Here "take" means 'have' or 'keep'.
hondaff"You may have a particular understanding of the terminology used, but the students may not take the same me
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canadian45 hondaff"Were this Court writing on a clean slate, it might be inclined to agree with Dewsnup that the quoted words must take the same meaning in § 506(d) as in § 506(a). " Here "take" means 'have' or 'keep'.hondaff"You may have a particular understanding of the terminology used, but the students may not take the same meaning from those words." Here "take" means
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fivejedjonI agree with you on the second 'take' I think, and it's only a personal view, that there is the idea of 'be given' in the first one.
But "given" doesn't fit in with the sentence's grammar. So that causes some head scratching, right?
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canadian45 But "given" doesn't fit in with the sentence's grammar. So that causes some head scratching, right?
I don't see why. If an inanimate object 'takes' or 'keeps' something, then that something has been given/ascribed to the innamimate object. If a court decides, for example, that, in the wording of a particular law, 'man' shall take the meaning of
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Sorry, I missed the "be" in "be given". With "be" the grammar is correct, and it's only the grammar that I questioned.
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