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Suicide victim

There was a headline in the Sydney Morning Herald to-day which read 'Body off beach believed to be suicide victim'. The use of 'suicide' and 'victim' together struck me as being rather incongruous. Does anyone else feel the same, or is this an accepted collocation?

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"Sebastian Hew" (Email Removed) burbled news:3f1d368d$0$20079$(Email Removed): [nq:1]There was a headline in the Sydney Morning Herald to-day which read 'Body off beach believed to be suicide victim'. The use of 'suicide' and 'victim' together struck me as being rather incongruous. [/nq] Most people see suicide as a crime against the self.

  • "Sebastian Hew" (Email Removed) burbled news:3f1d368d$0$20079$(Email Removed): [nq:1]There was a headline in the Sydney Morning Herald to-day which read 'Body off beach believed to be suicide victim'.
  • The use of 'suicide' and 'victim' together struck me as being rather incongruous.
  • [/nq] Most people see suicide as a crime against the self.
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"Sebastian Hew" (Email Removed) burbled news:3f1d368d$0$20079$(Email Removed):
[nq:1]There was a headline in the Sydney Morning Herald to-day which read 'Body off beach believed to be suicide victim'. The use of 'suicide' and 'victim' together struck me as being rather incongruous. Does anyone else feel the same, or is this an accepted collocation?[/nq]
Most people see suicide as a crime
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[nq:1]There was a headline in the Sydney Morning Herald to-day which read 'Body off beach believed to be suicide victim'. The use of 'suicide' and 'victim' together struck me as being rather incongruous. Does anyone else feel the same, or is this an accepted collocation?[/nq]
When I read the phrase "suicide victim" I keep thinking of persons who were hurt by someone else's suicide attempt. Li
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[nq:1]Most people see suicide as a crime against the self.[/nq]
Can you back up this statement? -- Marc, No comment
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[nq:1]There was a headline in the Sydney Morning Herald to-day which read 'Body off beach believed to be suicide victim'. The use of 'suicide' and 'victim' together struck me as being rather incongruous. Does anyone else feel the same, or is this an accepted collocation?[/nq]
I understand why you find it odd. However, I'm trying to think what else I would say.
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"Body of someone presumed to have committed suicide found on the beach." -- Marc, No comment
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In article , Master says...
[nq:1]When I read the phrase "suicide victim" I keep thinking of persons who were hurt by someone else's suicide attempt. Like the guy who got killed because someone else fell on him while jumping from a tall building.[/nq]
"Well, you see, I was in this refrigerator"..r
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[nq:2]There was a headline in the Sydney Morning Herald to-day ... else feel the same, or is this an accepted collocation?[/nq]
[nq:1]I understand why you find it odd. However, I'm trying to think what else I would say.[/nq]
Me too. The only thing that comes to mind is "perpetrator" -- and that sounds just plain wrong.
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(Email Removed) spake thus:
[nq:1]"Sebastian Hew" (Email Removed) burbled news:3f1d368d$0$20079$(Email Removed):[/nq]
[nq:2]There was a headline in the Sydney Morning Herald to-day ... else feel the same, or is this an accepted collocation?[/nq]
[nq:1]Most people see suicide as a crime against the self.[/nq]
r/Most/Some/

-- David I say what it occurs to me to say. == The
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[nq:1]There was a headline in the Sydney Morning Herald to-day which read 'Body off beach believed to be suicide victim'. The use of 'suicide' and 'victim' together struck me as being rather incongruous. Does anyone else feel the same, or is this an accepted collocation?[/nq]
Like many things in English, it seems odd when you look at it closely. I think it's acceptable, but I think I'd leave
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Master Cougar (Email Removed) burbled news:1bwcslf0c0sl8.jkwdp9wzck0b$.(Email Removed):
[nq:2]Most people see suicide as a crime against the self.[/nq]
[nq:1]Can you back up this statement?[/nq]
Of course not. Why would you even bother to ask?

Many people are NIMBYs about this, though. They're all for the principle of the individual being free to dispose of one's body and lif

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