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Ant_222 Posted 18 years ago
Grammar
Sufficient condition for/of
Hello all!
I have a really tiny question this time: is there any difference between:
a) Sufficient condition for a function's maximum
b) Sufficient condition of a function's minimum
I have a really tiny question this time: is there any difference between:
a) Sufficient condition for a function's maximum
b) Sufficient condition of a function's minimum
Thank you in advance!
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Hi Ant, I can't think of a legitimate meaning for b). ) I suppose you could say that since the condition is capable of producing the specified result, that particular condition belongs to the result, hence condition of the min . But if this were acceptable, it would still mean the same thing as a).
- Hi Ant, I can't think of a legitimate meaning for b).
- ) I suppose you could say that since the condition is capable of producing the specified result, that particular condition belongs to the result, hence condition of the min .
- But if this were acceptable, it would still mean the same thing as a).
- Probably in logic it would be more a matter of convention than grammar.
- Do you have a reference?
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Hi Ant,
I can't think of a legitimate meaning for b). (Are you trying to confuse me by switching from max to min at the same time you switch from for to of?)
I suppose you could say that since the condition is capable of producing the specified result, that particular condition belongs to the result, hence condition o
I can't think of a legitimate meaning for b). (Are you trying to confuse me by switching from max to min at the same time you switch from for to of?)
I suppose you could say that since the condition is capable of producing the specified result, that particular condition belongs to the result, hence condition o
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The condition(s) for some state of affairs are the conditions that must exist in order for that state of affairs to exist.
The condition of something is the state that it is in. This is a different definition of condition.
the conditions for a hail storm
the condition of a car engine
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That said, neither of your phrases makes complete sen
The condition of something is the state that it is in. This is a different definition of condition.
the conditions for a hail storm
the condition of a car engine
____
That said, neither of your phrases makes complete sen
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Hi Avagni and thanks!
I was writing a program and at a certain line I wanted to make a comment:
and found myself unable to choose between "of" and "for". I tried googling both versions and found both of them used (including co.uk sites and published scientific papers), though "of" was rarer than "for"..
I was writing a program and at a certain line I wanted to make a comment:
//Sufficient condition of the format being wrong
and found myself unable to choose between "of" and "for". I tried googling both versions and found both of them used (including co.uk sites and published scientific papers), though "of" was rarer than "for"..
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Clive
Yes, I undersatnd the two meanings of "condition", this is just like in Russian. But I believe that mathematical language does use "conditon for" as a good and standard phrase...
As to your second rewording, it is no doubt more literary but... less scientific?
Just google "sufficient condition for" — the results look convincing (to me).
Yes, I undersatnd the two meanings of "condition", this is just like in Russian. But I believe that mathematical language does use "conditon for" as a good and standard phrase...
As to your second rewording, it is no doubt more literary but... less scientific?
Just google "sufficient condition for" — the results look convincing (to me).
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I'm not Clive! 
I think you want condition for in your program comment.
CJ
I think you want condition for in your program comment.
CJ
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