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English 1b3 Posted 16 years ago
Grammar
Such that/ so + verb + that/ in such a way that
a. The furniture is so arranged that the interviewee and the interviewer are not physically separated by a desk.
b. The furniture is arranged so that the interviewee and the interviewer are not physically separated by a desk.
c. The furniture is arranged such that the interviewee and the interviewer are not physically separated by a desk.
d. The furniture is arranged in such a way that the interviewee and the interviewer are not physically separated by a desk.
1) Do you agree that:
a) a and b have different meanings?
b) a and c have the same meanings?
c) c has d have the same meanings?
2) What is the best way to write a, c and d, be it one of the versions I've provided or an alternative?
Thank you
b. The furniture is arranged so that the interviewee and the interviewer are not physically separated by a desk.
c. The furniture is arranged such that the interviewee and the interviewer are not physically separated by a desk.
d. The furniture is arranged in such a way that the interviewee and the interviewer are not physically separated by a desk.
1) Do you agree that:
a) a and b have different meanings?
b) a and c have the same meanings?
c) c has d have the same meanings?
2) What is the best way to write a, c and d, be it one of the versions I've provided or an alternative?
Thank you
Top answer
1-- They all seem to have the same meaning to me. Further context is needed to reveal whether the furniture arrangement is serendipitous or planned. 2-- I'd go with the simplest, of course.
- 1-- They all seem to have the same meaning to me.
- Further context is needed to reveal whether the furniture arrangement is serendipitous or planned.
- 2-- I'd go with the simplest, of course.
- B I think is the most common.
- Or 'The furniture is arranged to eliminate any obstacles between interviewer and interviewee'.
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1-- They all seem to have the same meaning to me. Further context is needed to reveal whether the furniture arrangement is serendipitous or planned.
2-- I'd go with the simplest, of course. Uh...B I think is the most common. Or 'The furniture is arranged to eliminate any obstacles between interviewer and interviewee'.
2-- I'd go with the simplest, of course. Uh...B I think is the most common. Or 'The furniture is arranged to eliminate any obstacles between interviewer and interviewee'.
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Mister MicawberFurther context is needed to reveal whether the furniture arrangement is serendipitous or planned.
b was meant to state that the future arrangement was planned.
I thought:
'so that'=purpose
'such that' & 'in such a way that'=manner
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I don't think that is written in stone. I see the ambiguity of your 4 sentences, but can easily interpret them as synonymous.
I built it so that the doors open inward.
I built it in such a way that the doors open inward.
Purpose (or manner) and manner, respectively, but they have the same intent.
I built it so that the doors open inward.
I built it in such a way that the doors open inward.
Purpose (or manner) and manner, respectively, but they have the same intent.
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Mister MicawberI built it so that the doors open inward.
I built it in such a way that the doors open inward.
Purpose (or manner) and manner, respectively, but they have the same intent.
Ah, I see.
So 'in such a way that' implies the manner in which something was done, but so that can imply either manner or purpose.
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