"such that " has frustrated me , help me , please.

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I have a question to ask , i don't know if the expression "such that" could mean "the reason is that..."?

The method 2019.7 "die shear strength" in the MIL-STD-883F has such a sentence :

"After initial contact with the die edge and during the application of force, the relative position of the
contact tool shall not move vertically such that contact is made with the header/substrate or die attach
media. If the tool rides over the die, a new die may be substituted or the die may be repositioned,
provided that the requirements of 3.1.c are met."

the question is : the contact should be required? Or the contact should be prevented ?

i know that the "such that " could always be "the status is that ....", "the level is that ..." ,
but i don't know if it has the meaning of "the reason is that..."

For example , i wanna say "i could not understand the standard because i am lacking of the knowledge"
could i express the meaning with "such that " in such a way ?

"i could not understanding the standard such that i am lacking of the knowlege"

THIS IS a Importand question , i have almost been frustrated by the "such that "

Kooyeen · Accepted Answer

Hi, and welcome to EnglishForward!

From Merriam Webster:

2 : in such a way <related such that each excludes the other>

shearfrustratedFor example , i wanna say "i could not understand the standard because i am lacking of the knowledge"
could i express the meaning with "such that " in such a way ?

"i could not understanding the standard such that i am lacking of the knowlege"

No, I don't think you can. You would need something different, like "because", which would be the most common particle to use for that meaning.

Kooyeen · Answer

shearfrustratedthe question is : the contact should be required? Or the contact should be prevented ?

That's a more interesting question.

shearfrustrated"After initial contact with the die edge and during the application of force, the relative position of the
contact tool shall not move vertically such that contact is made with the header/substrate or die attach
media.

It's like saying:
You must not pull the red lever such that the pressure rises. = You must not pull the lever in such a way that the pressure rises.

So the pressure rise would be the result, and in your case the result would be the contact. So, if I understand it correctly, I would say that "the contact tool must not touch the header/substrate or the attach media". So the contact should be prevented.

There is another problem though: that stuff seems to have been written by a non-native speaker. Let's hope the author really meant what they wrote.
By the way, I am a non native speaker too, so maybe it's better if you wait for someone else to confirm this.

Yizhivika · Answer

"After initial contact with the die edge and during the application of force, the relative position of the
contact tool shall not move vertically such that contact is made with the header/substrate or die attach
media. If the tool rides over the die, a new die may be substituted or the die may be repositioned,
provided that the requirements of 3.1.c are met."

The English here probably was written by a native speaker; it is rather precise, technical language, but the grammar is faultless, and I'd expect to see a few grammatical errors if such a paragraph were written by a non-native speaker.

Kooyeen's interpretation of it is also correct, and hopefully the expansion of 'such that' to 'in such a way that' will make the meaning clearer to non-native speakers of English. The meaning here is definitely that 'the contact should be prevented.' Note, however, that the preceding 'shall not' plays a critical role in determining the meaning here.

With your sentence, "I could not understand the standard because I am lacking of the knowledge", no, you can't use such that instead of because. The word because would be the one normally used by a native speaker in a sentence such as this, and is the best word to use here.

THIS IS an important question, I have ~~almost~~ been most frustrated by (the) "such that".

Nona the brit · Answer

'such that' is used in a few very technical senses, usually in mathematics, but I think its use spreads sometimes into other sciences and engineering (as seems to be the case here).

It isn't part of any 'normal' vocabulary so unless you need it in its technical meaning, don't use it.

"such that " has frustrated me , help me , please.

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