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SJ88 Posted 19 years ago
Grammar

subjunctives (sequence of moods)

Hi, i just read that Fowler says that its more correct to say, " If i were to say that i was wrong", rather than "if i were to say that i were wrong". why is that so?

similarly, do i say, " even if i knew where he were", or "even if i knew where he was", when i'm referring to the current location of the said "he"?

Thanks so much for your help in advance.
  

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It's simply logical. " You don't need doubling "were" up.

  • It's simply logical.
  • " You don't need doubling "were" up.
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It's simply logical.

The doubt is only about "I am saying or not saying," not about "I was wrong." You don't need doubling "were" up.
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i see, what abt my second qn then?
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even if i knew where he is
is my choice for his present location
but I think many would use "he was"
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but shouldnt you keep in line with the conditional aspect of the sentence?

Eg.: If i were a millionaire, i WOULD...
If only he knew that you and I WERE brothers...
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Marius Hancu,

One more thing. Since you said that it isnt necessary to double "were", then shouldnt it read, " If i were to say that i am wrong"?
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SJ88but shouldnt you keep in line with the conditional aspect of the sentence?

Eg.: If I were a millionaire, I WOULD...
fine (because you're making a hypothesis about what you would do in that case)

If only he knew that you and I WERE brothers...
use are, IMO, there are
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SJ88Marius Hancu,

One more thing. Since you said that it isnt necessary to double "were", then shouldnt it read, " If i were to say that i am wrong"?
Both am/was work, depending on the time of being wrong.
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Marius Hancueven if i knew where he is
For concordance with the imperfect subjunctive you need the simple past tense (was).
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Hey SJ88,
you are right, you don't need two subjunctives. Example:
If I was/were a rich girl, I'd be like Gwen Stefani. <--- here both are used
If she knew I was here with you, she would definitely get mad at me! <--- but here it's was, not were.

Don't ask me why, it's just the way natives speak, lol.
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KooyeenDon't ask me why, it's just the way natives speak
It's because it is a fact (not a possibility).

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