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Believer Posted 18 years ago
Grammar
Subjunctive
0 Hi, 02 br
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00 Could you please tell me whether the underlined part in the subordinate clause can be "were" instead the one used? I think more context might be needed but hoping for the best. I think as it is, it is a typical type 3 conditional. I might add that the person was in store trying to buy a shirt. 02 br
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00 If it 01 u 00 had been 02 u 00 a short-sleeve model, I would have snatched it up, but now I have my eyes peeled. 02 br
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00 Sorry, this just came up, what is the difference? a short-sleeve model and a short-sleeved model 0-
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00 Could you please tell me whether the underlined part in the subordinate clause can be "were" instead the one used? I think more context might be needed but hoping for the best. I think as it is, it is a typical type 3 conditional. I might add that the person was in store trying to buy a shirt. 02 br
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00 If it 01 u 00 had been 02 u 00 a short-sleeve model, I would have snatched it up, but now I have my eyes peeled. 02 br
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00 Sorry, this just came up, what is the difference? a short-sleeve model and a short-sleeved model 0-
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0 I don't find Type 3 needed. I'd use either a mixed (with "were/was" in the first part as you suggested) conditional or Type 2. 0-
- 0 I don't find Type 3 needed.
- I'd use either a mixed (with "were/was" in the first part as you suggested) conditional or Type 2.
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0 I don't find Type 3 needed. I'd use either a mixed (with "were/was" in the first part as you suggested) conditional or Type 2. 0-
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0 Yes, you need 01 u 01 i 00 had been 02 i 02 u 00 (because it shows an unsuccessful attempt made before this 01 b 00 now 02 b 00 moment in the past; 01 i 00 were 02 i 00 would mean simultaneity with it) and you need 01 b 00 had 02 b 00 , because you refer to a moment in the past, even if it's actualized with 01 b
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0 Marius: Are you sure the following won't work: 02 br
00 «If it was a short-sleece model, I would have bought it (as early as yestarday)/(already)» 02 br
00 «If the car was white...» 0-
00 «If it was a short-sleece model, I would have bought it (as early as yestarday)/(already)» 02 br
00 «If the car was white...» 0-
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01 cite 10 Ant_222 12 cite 10 Marius: Are you sure the following won't work: 12 br
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10 «If it was a short-sleece model, I would have bought it (as early as yestarday)/(already)» 12 br
10 «If the car was white...» 12 br
10 No, because the end 12 br
11 i 10 but now I 11 b 10 had 12 b
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0 But it was you who changed it to "had", Believer used "have" in his sentence... 0-
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0 Without some strict logic, we can't decide on this one: 02 br
00 - first the object exists 02 br
00 - later (thus not simultaneously, thus we need 01 b 00 had been 02 b 00 ), I am snatching it 02 br
00 - even later, I am not satisfied and keep my eyes open 02 br
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00 have: for 01 i 00 now 02 i 00 in the present 0
00 - first the object exists 02 br
00 - later (thus not simultaneously, thus we need 01 b 00 had been 02 b 00 ), I am snatching it 02 br
00 - even later, I am not satisfied and keep my eyes open 02 br
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00 have: for 01 i 00 now 02 i 00 in the present 0
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0 Thanks for the reply, Marius! 02 br
00 Let me torture you a bit more 05 1 02 br
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00 "- first the object exists" 02 br
00 Well, it never ceases to exist untill it is disposed of... 02 br
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00 "- later (thus not simultaneously, thus we need had been), I am snatching it" 02 br
00 I'd say it happens simultaneously w
00 Let me torture you a bit more 05 1 02 br
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00 "- first the object exists" 02 br
00 Well, it never ceases to exist untill it is disposed of... 02 br
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00 "- later (thus not simultaneously, thus we need had been), I am snatching it" 02 br
00 I'd say it happens simultaneously w
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0 Forget about it, I won't stay here any more. I don't like to be tortured. I say what I say and that's it. 0-
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0 I would just say the difference is: 02 br
00 If it was... (but it's not) 02 br
00 If it had been... (but it was not) 02 br
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00 So it depends on the context and what you want to say... or how you want to say it. 02 br
00 Some people use the past instead of the subjunctive, like in "If I knew you were coming, I would have baked you a cake! (but I d
00 If it was... (but it's not) 02 br
00 If it had been... (but it was not) 02 br
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00 So it depends on the context and what you want to say... or how you want to say it. 02 br
00 Some people use the past instead of the subjunctive, like in "If I knew you were coming, I would have baked you a cake! (but I d
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