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Anonymous Posted 18 years ago
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subject of subordinate clause
0 Hi, 02 br
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00 I have been trying to obtain a firm grasp of how to distinguish what can be deleted and what can't be deleted in a situation like the one below, 02 br
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00 John who took my pen is here. -- Would you say since 'who' is the subject of the subordinate clause 'who took my pen', 'wjho' has to be there? How would you know 'who' is the subject? Looks to be a subject but can't be sure, to me. 02 br
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00 John who is wearing my jacket is here. -- Here, would you say 'who' is not a subject of the subordinate clause 'who is wearing my jacket'? How would you know? 02 br
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00 Still confued. 0-
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00 I have been trying to obtain a firm grasp of how to distinguish what can be deleted and what can't be deleted in a situation like the one below, 02 br
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00 John who took my pen is here. -- Would you say since 'who' is the subject of the subordinate clause 'who took my pen', 'wjho' has to be there? How would you know 'who' is the subject? Looks to be a subject but can't be sure, to me. 02 br
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00 John who is wearing my jacket is here. -- Here, would you say 'who' is not a subject of the subordinate clause 'who is wearing my jacket'? How would you know? 02 br
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00 Still confued. 0-
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02 br 02 br 01 font 00 John who took my pen is here. -- Would you say since 'who' is the subject of the subordinate clause 'who took my pen' 01 b 00 , 00 Yes 02 b 00 00 'wjho' has to be there? 01 b 00 Yes 02 b 00 00 How would you know 'who' is the subject?
- 02 br 02 br 01 font 00 John who took my pen is here.
- -- Would you say since 'who' is the subject of the subordinate clause 'who took my pen' 01 b 00 , 00 Yes 02 b 00 00 'wjho' has to be there?
- 01 b 00 Yes 02 b 00 00 How would you know 'who' is the subject?
- 02 br 02 br 01 b 00 main clause 02 b 00 01 i 01 u 00 John is here 02 u 02 i 00 .
- 02 font 02 br 02 br 01 font 00 John who is wearing my jacket is here.
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0 Hi, 02 br
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01 font 00 I have been trying to obtain a firm grasp of how to distinguish what can be deleted and what can't be deleted in a situation like the one below, 02 font 00 What are you thinking about deleting? 02 br
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01 font 00 John who took my pen is here. -- Would you say since 'who' is
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01 font 00 I have been trying to obtain a firm grasp of how to distinguish what can be deleted and what can't be deleted in a situation like the one below, 02 font 00 What are you thinking about deleting? 02 br
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01 font 00 John who took my pen is here. -- Would you say since 'who' is
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1 b 00 #1 John who took my pen is here. 02 b 02 br
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01 b 00 #2 John who is wearing my jacket is here. 02 b 02 br
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00 How firm a grasp would you like to obtain? (I know I shouldn't have written that, but I couldn't resist.) 02 br
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00 The thing that works for me is to take out the the subject and the "verb" and se
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01 b 00 #2 John who is wearing my jacket is here. 02 b 02 br
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00 How firm a grasp would you like to obtain? (I know I shouldn't have written that, but I couldn't resist.) 02 br
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00 The thing that works for me is to take out the the subject and the "verb" and se
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John is here - main clause
who took my pen - subordinate clause
'who' is a dummy subject
John is here - main clause
who is wearing my jacket - subordinate clause
'who' is the dummy subject
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anonymousJohn, who took my pen, is here.
John, who is wearing my jacket, is here.
These are non-defining relative clauses.
Once you have established the referent for "John" no
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