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Tenacious Learner Posted 13 years ago
Grammar

Subject and Object Pronouns (Two meanings)

Hi teachers,
More or less definitions for subject and object pronouns are like this:

a) Subject pronouns are used to substitute the names of the people or things that perform actions.
b) Object pronouns are used to substitute the names of the people or things that are affected by an action.

How about these examples?
This book is for Mary. (The book, the subject of the sentence; Mary, the object of the sentence.)
It is for her.
Mary is talking to John. (Mary, the subject who produces a sentence/who produces an action. John, the object who is affected by the action)
She is talking to him.

If that is so, would it be possible to conclude the following?
There are two kinds of subjects, the subject who DOES/PRODUCES an action and the subject OF a sentence.
There are two kinds of objects, the object who RECEIVES or is AFFECTED by an action and the object OF a sentence.

Thanks in advance.
  

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Tenacious Learner a) Subject pronouns are used to substitute the names of the people or things that perform actions. b) Object pronouns are used to substitute the names of the people or things that are affected by an action. Those aren’t bad, but they’re incomplete.

  • Tenacious Learner a) Subject pronouns are used to substitute the names of the people or things that perform actions.
  • b) Object pronouns are used to substitute the names of the people or things that are affected by an action.
  • Those aren’t bad, but they’re incomplete.
  • I suggest Subject pronouns are used to substitute the names of the person or thing that is doing or being something.
  • Object pronouns are used to substitute the name of the person or thing that is affected by the action of a verb or that follows and is governed by a preposition.
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Tenacious Learnera) Subject pronouns are used to substitute the names of the people or things that perform actions.
b) Object pronouns are used to substitute the names of the people or things that are affected by an action.
Those aren’t bad, but they’re incomplete.

I suggest

Subject pronouns are used to substitute the names of the pers
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Tenacious LearnerHow about these examples?This book is for Mary. (The book, the subject of the sentence; Mary, the object of the sentence.)It is for her.
No, 'Mary' is the object of the prepostion, not the action. 'Is' an intransitive linking verb.
Tenacious LearnerMary is talking to John. (Mary, the subject who produces a sentence/who
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Hi AG,
I really appreciate your detailed definitions. It's a very good reasoning without a doubt.Emotion: yes
Subject pronouns ar
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Hi MM,
Thanks a lot for your explanations. They also help.Emotion: yes

TL
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Tenacious LearnerI can simply tell the students that not all verbs are action verbs. There are state verbs too and particularly the verb 'to be' is a linking verb. With linking verbs we can still have a pronoun 'it' in subject position, but what follows the verb, in my example 'for her', is a subject complement that does not take any action.
In short, linking verbs do
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Aspara GusSounds good to me.
Hi AG,
Thanks! No further questions.Emotion: smile

TL
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Hi AG,
One more question. Being the below definition very clear to me. It won't be for my students.
How can I replace 'being something'? Being is too complicated for the students. Could you tell me an/some alternative(s)?

Subject pronouns are used to substitute the names of the person or thing that is doing or being something.
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I cannot think of an easier construction than the one you have. If they can understand 'doing', then they can understand 'being'.

Subject pronouns are used to substitute for the names of the person or thing that is doing or being something.
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Hi MM,
Thanks for your reply.
Then if I separate the definitions into two, they will look like this. Do you agree with them?
a) Subject pronouns are used to substitute for the names of the person or thing that is doing something.
b) Subject pronouns are also used to substitute the names of the person or thing that give additional information about the subject without expressing an
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Tenacious LearnerThen if I separate the definitions into two, they will look like this.
No they won't; the second one will look like this:

b) Subject pronouns are also used to substitute the names of the persons or things that are being something.

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