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Star Trek grammar question
I watched an old episode of 'Star Trek' (TNG) this evening. It was the episode where Sarek (Spock's father) sheds a tear or two in the middle of a musical performance. At the beginning of this particular episode, Sarek introduces his wife to Captain Picard by saying:
"Allow me to present she who is my wife."
I know Sarek could* simply have said "Allow me to present my wife" (or "Meet the wife"), but why did he say "Allow me to present *she who is my wife."? "She" is 'nominative' (or the 'subject'), isn't it? Shouldn't it be "her" as the 'accusative' (or 'object')?
I'm really confused about this and can't get it out of my mind. It's been a long, freezing day here and I'm tired. Nevertheless, if someone could explain this to me, I'd really appreciate it.
Christopher
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"Allow me to present she who is my wife."
I know Sarek could* simply have said "Allow me to present my wife" (or "Meet the wife"), but why did he say "Allow me to present *she who is my wife."? "She" is 'nominative' (or the 'subject'), isn't it? Shouldn't it be "her" as the 'accusative' (or 'object')?
I'm really confused about this and can't get it out of my mind. It's been a long, freezing day here and I'm tired. Nevertheless, if someone could explain this to me, I'd really appreciate it.
Christopher
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[nq:1]I know Sarek could* simply have said "Allow me to present my wife" (or "Meet the wife"), but why did he say "Allow me to present *she who is my wife."?[/nq]
It's Vulcan for "She Who Must Be Obeyed."
Dena Jo
Delete "delete.this.for.email" for email.
It's Vulcan for "She Who Must Be Obeyed."
Dena Jo
Delete "delete.this.for.email" for email.
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Thus spake Christopher Johnson:
[nq:1]I watched an old episode of 'Star Trek' (TNG) this evening. It was the episode where Sarek (Spock's father) sheds ... a long, freezing day here and I'm tired. Nevertheless, if someone could explain this to me, I'd really appreciate it.[/nq]
I could answer this, but as a former (and, no doubt, future) English teacher who is sometimes unsure of whether t
[nq:1]I watched an old episode of 'Star Trek' (TNG) this evening. It was the episode where Sarek (Spock's father) sheds ... a long, freezing day here and I'm tired. Nevertheless, if someone could explain this to me, I'd really appreciate it.[/nq]
I could answer this, but as a former (and, no doubt, future) English teacher who is sometimes unsure of whether t
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[nq:1]Thus spake Christopher Johnson:[/nq]
[nq:2]I watched an old episode of 'Star Trek' (TNG) this ... someone could explain this to me, I'd really appreciate it.[/nq]
[nq:1]I could answer this, but as a former (and, no doubt, future) English teacher who is sometimes unsure of whether ... believe me. Ask ***, or Doccin' Robin. Tell them what "nominative" means first, though give them half
[nq:2]I watched an old episode of 'Star Trek' (TNG) this ... someone could explain this to me, I'd really appreciate it.[/nq]
[nq:1]I could answer this, but as a former (and, no doubt, future) English teacher who is sometimes unsure of whether ... believe me. Ask ***, or Doccin' Robin. Tell them what "nominative" means first, though give them half
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On 11 Feb 2004 04:16:24 GMT, Dena Jo
[nq:2]I know Sarek could* simply have said "Allow me to ... say "Allow me to present *she who is my wife."?[/nq]
[nq:1]It's Vulcan for "She Who Must Be Obeyed."[/nq]
Or, in Yoda, "She Whom Obeyed Must Be."
Or, in Orlando, "She That Must Be Obeyed."(1)
(1. That's just an affectionate rib, TC; I really can't be doin' with the snippiness
[nq:2]I know Sarek could* simply have said "Allow me to ... say "Allow me to present *she who is my wife."?[/nq]
[nq:1]It's Vulcan for "She Who Must Be Obeyed."[/nq]
Or, in Yoda, "She Whom Obeyed Must Be."
Or, in Orlando, "She That Must Be Obeyed."(1)
(1. That's just an affectionate rib, TC; I really can't be doin' with the snippiness
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Clean out your mailbox, Ross. Your account's over quota.
Dena Jo
Delete "delete.this.for.email" for email.
Dena Jo
Delete "delete.this.for.email" for email.
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Thus spake Dena Jo:
[nq:1] Clean out your mailbox, Ross. Your account's over quota.[/nq]
Spoiler: The answer's infra red to capture the fear.
Simon R. Hughes
[nq:1] Clean out your mailbox, Ross. Your account's over quota.[/nq]
Spoiler: The answer's infra red to capture the fear.
Simon R. Hughes
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[nq:2]It's Vulcan for "She Who Must Be Obeyed."[/nq]
[nq:1]Or, in Yoda, "She Whom Obeyed Must Be." Or, in Orlando, "She That Must Be Obeyed."(1) (1. That's just an ... sense others are also starting to say "STFAGOS" (I'll leave that one for RF to decypher when he gets back.))[/nq]
The affectionate rib is third down on the left. Rub it, and my rear leg spasmodically scratches.
[nq:1]Or, in Yoda, "She Whom Obeyed Must Be." Or, in Orlando, "She That Must Be Obeyed."(1) (1. That's just an ... sense others are also starting to say "STFAGOS" (I'll leave that one for RF to decypher when he gets back.))[/nq]
The affectionate rib is third down on the left. Rub it, and my rear leg spasmodically scratches.
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[nq:1]Thus spake Christopher Johnson:[/nq]
[nq:2]I watched an old episode of 'Star Trek' (TNG) this ... someone could explain this to me, I'd really appreciate it.[/nq]
[nq:1]I could answer this, but as a former (and, no doubt, future) English teacher who is sometimes unsure of whether ... believe me. Ask ***, or Doccin' Robin. Tell them what "nominative" means first, though give them half
[nq:2]I watched an old episode of 'Star Trek' (TNG) this ... someone could explain this to me, I'd really appreciate it.[/nq]
[nq:1]I could answer this, but as a former (and, no doubt, future) English teacher who is sometimes unsure of whether ... believe me. Ask ***, or Doccin' Robin. Tell them what "nominative" means first, though give them half
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[nq:2]I know Sarek could* simply have said "Allow me to ... say "Allow me to present *she who is my wife."?[/nq]
[nq:1]It's Vulcan for "She Who Must Be Obeyed."[/nq]
Take she who is my wife, please!
(Friends, Vulcans, Countrymen, lend me your ears ...)
[nq:1]It's Vulcan for "She Who Must Be Obeyed."[/nq]
Take she who is my wife, please!
(Friends, Vulcans, Countrymen, lend me your ears ...)
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Jim Ward filted:
[nq:2]It's Vulcan for "She Who Must Be Obeyed."[/nq]
[nq:1]Take she who is my wife, please! (Friends, Vulcans, Countrymen, lend me your ears ...)[/nq]
Point taken..r
[nq:2]It's Vulcan for "She Who Must Be Obeyed."[/nq]
[nq:1]Take she who is my wife, please! (Friends, Vulcans, Countrymen, lend me your ears ...)[/nq]
Point taken..r
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