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Anonymous Posted 18 years ago
Linguistics Studies
Standard spoken English
0 I'm intrigued. On another forum, Mr P mentioned of the term "standard spoken English". He hasn't yet given a clear definition of what he means by that term, but he has excluded the use of "if I have/get chance..." over "if I have/get the/a chance..." from his view of what is standard spoken English. 02 br
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00 I wonder, what do you all think the term "standard spoken English" means and would you, as Mr P did, exclude the above? And these, would you exclude from spoken standard English's borders? 02 br
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00 -Things going well, are they? 02 br
00 -He won't be late I don't think. 02 br
00 -She about six foot tall. 02 br
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00 -Jamie, he's got a new hat. 02 br
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00 -There's a hairy thing on the green stuff. 02 br
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00 -He got killed. 02 br
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00 -You know which one I mean probably. 02 br
00 -A friend of mine, his uncle had the taxi firm when we had the wedding. 02 br
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00 I wonder, what do you all think the term "standard spoken English" means and would you, as Mr P did, exclude the above? And these, would you exclude from spoken standard English's borders? 02 br
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00 -Things going well, are they? 02 br
00 -He won't be late I don't think. 02 br
00 -She about six foot tall. 02 br
00 -wanna/gonna 02 br
00 -Jamie, he's got a new hat. 02 br
00 -He's got a new hat, Jamie. 02 br
00 -There's a hairy thing on the green stuff. 02 br
00 -Dave coffee? 02 br
00 -He got killed. 02 br
00 -I was worried I was going to lose it and I did almost. 02 br
00 -You know which one I mean probably. 02 br
00 -A friend of mine, his uncle had the taxi firm when we had the wedding. 02 br
00 -Do you know erm you know where the erm go over to er go over erm where the fire station is not the one that white white... 0-
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0 Standard English doesn't exist in practice. You have to define it first. 02 br 00 So we have to define it.
- 0 Standard English doesn't exist in practice.
- You have to define it first.
- 02 br 00 So we have to define it.
- How do we define it?
- Well, someone already defined Standard English as "formal or almost formal English used by educated people in writing and without any hint of regional features".
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0 Standard English doesn't exist in practice. You have to define it first. There isn't any ISO standard which says how English should be. 02 br
00 So we have to define it. How do we define it? Well, someone already defined Standard English as "formal or almost formal English used by educated people in writing and without any hint of regional features". That's what people mean when they
00 So we have to define it. How do we define it? Well, someone already defined Standard English as "formal or almost formal English used by educated people in writing and without any hint of regional features". That's what people mean when they
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0 Hello Milky. Yes, your style remains, even when you post anonymously. 02 br
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00 I would define it as the type of English you use when you interview for a white-collar job. The type of English you use when you testify before Congress. The type of English you use when you mean your significant other's well-bred, wealthy parents for the first time. 02 br
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00 I would define it as the type of English you use when you interview for a white-collar job. The type of English you use when you testify before Congress. The type of English you use when you mean your significant other's well-bred, wealthy parents for the first time. 02 br
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0 <I would define it as the type of English you use when you interview for a white-collar job. The type of English you use when you testify before Congress. The type of English you use when you mean your significant other's well-bred, wealthy parents for the first time.> 02 br
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00 But isn't that just the written form transferred to speech? A spoken-written form, so to s
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00 But isn't that just the written form transferred to speech? A spoken-written form, so to s
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0 Thanks, Koyeen. A very interesting reply. 02 br
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0 "In turn, standard spoken English is said to have its own 'grammar, vocabulary and idiom'. How do we know what is to be excluded from the standard vocabulary of spoken English? And how are its idioms to be decided on?" 02 br
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0 Something to chew on: 02 br
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00 THE NOTION OF STANDARD SPOKEN GRAMMAR 02 br
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00 The term ‘standard grammar’ is most typically associated with written language, 02 br
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00 THE NOTION OF STANDARD SPOKEN GRAMMAR 02 br
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00 The term ‘standard grammar’ is most typically associated with written language, 02 br
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0 Hi Milky/Metal/Molly (or whatever the Anonymous name du jour might be) 02 br
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00 It seems to me that your first post and your subsequent back-to-back posts in this thread indicate nothing more than an inexplicable over-reaction to the fact that other people have had the "audacity" to suggest that typos often exist in written English (even when the written English is a tran
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00 It seems to me that your first post and your subsequent back-to-back posts in this thread indicate nothing more than an inexplicable over-reaction to the fact that other people have had the "audacity" to suggest that typos often exist in written English (even when the written English is a tran
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01 cite 10 Anonymous 12 cite 10 On another forum, Mr P mentioned of the term "standard spoken English". He hasn't yet given a clear definition of what he means by that term, but he has excluded the use of "if I have/get chance..." over "if I have/get the/a chance..." from his view of what is standard spoken English. I wonder, what do you all
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00 In the build-up to the event, the St Catharine's students will be learning the principles of Arabic chant, in particular the "Ison" - the drone which hums underneath the central melody. The Lebanese choristers 01 u 00 will also have chance to 02 u 00 practice the English tradition.
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