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Screenwriting
Speaking of voice-over (sin city)
so, I argued with hubby that the fact that none of the women characters had their own voice-overs was representative of the hopeless sexism in Sin City, a strong marker that it's not just that everybody's life sucks in Sin City, but that the women are more objects than the men (something I don't remember feeling when reading the Elektra cycle of Daredevil, for example?)...
...have I gotten old and cranky?
...is it true that Sin City, unlike pure (canonical, textbook, original, whatever adjective floats your boat) noir, has no real point or question to ask of the audience? That's it's just art-sploitation?
Mysti
...have I gotten old and cranky?
...is it true that Sin City, unlike pure (canonical, textbook, original, whatever adjective floats your boat) noir, has no real point or question to ask of the audience? That's it's just art-sploitation?
Mysti
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com: [nq:1]so, I argued with hubby that the fact that none of the women characters had their own voice-overs was representative ... )... [/nq] Local critics had the same thing to say about the movie's portrayal of women, attributing it to QT's influence.
- com: [nq:1]so, I argued with hubby that the fact that none of the women characters had their own voice-overs was representative ...
- )...
- [/nq] Local critics had the same thing to say about the movie's portrayal of women, attributing it to QT's influence.
- I haven't read the comic books, so I couldn't tell you whether the adaptation is faithful.
- Brian?
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@reader1.panix.com:
[nq:1]so, I argued with hubby that the fact that none of the women characters had their own voice-overs was representative ... (something I don't remember feeling when reading the Elektra cycle of Daredevil, for example?)... ...have I gotten old and cranky?[/nq]
Local critics had the same thing to say about the movie's portrayal of women, attributing it to QT's influenc
[nq:1]so, I argued with hubby that the fact that none of the women characters had their own voice-overs was representative ... (something I don't remember feeling when reading the Elektra cycle of Daredevil, for example?)... ...have I gotten old and cranky?[/nq]
Local critics had the same thing to say about the movie's portrayal of women, attributing it to QT's influenc
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So it is just a gore-fest, or what? Are there any redeeming qualities to it? The Washington Post reviewer made it sound nihilistic and ultra-violent, which doesn't appeal to me.
I saw some of "the making of" on E!, and I really loved the look of the film. But if it's just a stylized killing spree, I won't waste my time.
Lois
I saw some of "the making of" on E!, and I really loved the look of the film. But if it's just a stylized killing spree, I won't waste my time.
Lois
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[nq:1]@reader1.panix.com:[/nq]
[nq:2]so, I argued with hubby that the fact that none ... of Daredevil, for example?)... ...have I gotten old and cranky?[/nq]
[nq:1]Local critics had the same thing to say about the movie's portrayal of women, attributing it to QT's influence. I haven't read the comic books, so I couldn't tell you whether the adaptation is faithful. Brian? Anyone?[/nq]
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[nq:2]so, I argued with hubby that the fact that none ... of Daredevil, for example?)... ...have I gotten old and cranky?[/nq]
[nq:1]Local critics had the same thing to say about the movie's portrayal of women, attributing it to QT's influence. I haven't read the comic books, so I couldn't tell you whether the adaptation is faithful. Brian? Anyone?[/nq]
I
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[nq:1]so, I argued with hubby that the fact that none of the women characters had their own voice-overs was representative ... adjective floats your boat) noir, has no real point or question to ask of the audience? That's it's just art-sploitation?[/nq]
I didn't mind watching it, because it really was pretty much unlike anything else, (and both Mickey and Clive were great), but I sure am glad
I didn't mind watching it, because it really was pretty much unlike anything else, (and both Mickey and Clive were great), but I sure am glad
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[nq:1]I didn't mind watching it, because it really was pretty much unlike anything else, (and both Mickey and Clive were ... who gets off on this stuff, even with its feeble stabs at feminist role reversals, I throw up my hands.[/nq]
I'll be sure to bring my girlfriend along when I check it out, but then she's not type of gal who is easily offended and happens to share my sweet tooth for sleaz
I'll be sure to bring my girlfriend along when I check it out, but then she's not type of gal who is easily offended and happens to share my sweet tooth for sleaz
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[nq:1]Are the comics sexist? Absolutely. Does this mean that Frank Miller is sexist? Absolutely not. The sexism is as much ... half-assed, watered-down, pussified PC version of those old crime comics. And who the **** would want to sit through that?[/nq]
Let me start off by saying that I haven't read the Sin City comic books or (yet) seen the film, so I'm not commenting no whether or not they'
Let me start off by saying that I haven't read the Sin City comic books or (yet) seen the film, so I'm not commenting no whether or not they'
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[nq:2]Are the comics sexist? Absolutely. Does this mean that Frank ... And who the **** would want to sit through that?[/nq]
[nq:1]Let me start off by saying that I haven't read the Sin City comic books or (yet) seen the film, ... from a charge of sexism by claiming, "well, my source material is sexist, and I'm just being true to that."[/nq]
Just so you know, Miller has (to the best of my
[nq:1]Let me start off by saying that I haven't read the Sin City comic books or (yet) seen the film, ... from a charge of sexism by claiming, "well, my source material is sexist, and I'm just being true to that."[/nq]
Just so you know, Miller has (to the best of my
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[nq:2]Are the comics sexist? Absolutely. Does this mean that Frank ... And who the **** would want to sit through that?[/nq]
[nq:1]Let me start off by saying that I haven't read the Sin City comic books or (yet) seen the film, ... from a charge of sexism by claiming, "well, my source material is sexist, and I'm just being true to that."[/nq]
Brian's statement is a little ambiguous. Is the
[nq:1]Let me start off by saying that I haven't read the Sin City comic books or (yet) seen the film, ... from a charge of sexism by claiming, "well, my source material is sexist, and I'm just being true to that."[/nq]
Brian's statement is a little ambiguous. Is the
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[nq:1]Brian's statement is a little ambiguous. Is the comic sexist or does it just portray sexism? Certainly I think we ... tough tightrope to walk, and not always easy to declare one way or another that it is or isn't sexist.[/nq]
I saw the film tonight, and, honestly, I think the film is too stupid to merit serious discussion.
That being said, the movie is exactly as sexist as the pulp c
I saw the film tonight, and, honestly, I think the film is too stupid to merit serious discussion.
That being said, the movie is exactly as sexist as the pulp c
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[nq:1]@reader1.panix.com:[/nq]
[nq:2]so, I argued with hubby that the fact that none ... of Daredevil, for example?)... ...have I gotten old and cranky?[/nq]
[nq:1]Local critics had the same thing to say about the movie's portrayal of women, attributing it to QT's influence.[/nq]
The obvious implication being that QT doesn't "empower" (or word du jour) women in his films? This theory w
[nq:2]so, I argued with hubby that the fact that none ... of Daredevil, for example?)... ...have I gotten old and cranky?[/nq]
[nq:1]Local critics had the same thing to say about the movie's portrayal of women, attributing it to QT's influence.[/nq]
The obvious implication being that QT doesn't "empower" (or word du jour) women in his films? This theory w
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