Spanish Pronunciation of Jaguar

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Hello, All!A little while ago, there was a discussion of the authentic ethnic pronunciation of jaguar. I did query some Spanish speaking acquaintances but they did not agree! However, I came across the web site:-http://www.kidsspeakspanish.org/esp Vocab List SummerReading Maisy y Sus Amigos.shtml that produced this:-el jaguar, pronounced el hah-gwahr, meaning the jaguar .It's far enough away from both US and British English that honor would be satisfied by either English pronunciation :-)Let me also reiterate that I am not an enthusiast for PC ethnic pronunciation anyway and also who knows how the Amazonian people pronounce it.James SilvertonPotomac, Maryland, USA

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[nq:1]Hello, All! A little while ago, there was a discussion of the authentic ethnic pronunciation of jaguar. I did query some Spanish speaking acquaintances but they did not agree! However, I came[/nq]
Native Spanish speakers? How did they disagree from what's below?
[nq:1]across the web site:- http://www.kidsspeakspanish.org/esp Vocab List SummerReading Maisy y Sus Amigos.shtml that produced this:- el jaguar, pronounced el hah-gwahr, meaning the jaguar .[/nq]
Yes, that follows the rules.
[nq:1]It's far enough away from both US and British English that honor would be satisfied by either English pronunciation :-) Let me also reiterate that I am not an enthusiast for PC ethnic[/nq]
Don't label everything you don't like as PC**. The primary reason people go out of their way to use the original pronunciation of words like Jaguar, that's not used very often by Spanish speakers in the US or anywhere, is to show off their knowledge of a foreign language, and that's not what's meant by PC.
**or for that matter, everything PC as something not to like.
[nq:1]pronunciation anyway and also who knows how the Amazonian people pronounce it. James Silverton Potomac, Maryland, USA[/nq]
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[nq:1]el jaguar, pronounced el hah-gwahr, meaning the jaguar .[/nq]
How does one say 'Baguio'?

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[nq:2]Hello, All! A little while ago, there was a discussion ... speaking acquaintances but they did not agree! However, I came[/nq]
[nq:1]Native Spanish speakers? How did they disagree from what's below?[/nq]
I can't see them disagreeing very much, but there are variations on the pronunciation of the "h" (X or jota sound) as well as of the socalled hard "g",which almost disappears in some dialects, or at least the "go,gu"sounds do. (agua sounds something like ahwah)
The "j" can be pronounced very far back in the throat. My original teacher was from Spain, and he taught me to say it that way. Then, years later, a girlfriend from Peru told me it sounded very rude and crude to her, so I moderated it to something closer to the AmE "h", rather than the "hawking" sound I had made before that.
[nq:2]across the web site:- el jaguar, pronounced el hah-gwahr, meaning the jaguar .[/nq]
Correct.
"Jaguar" is just the name chosen from one aboriginal language. Many Spanish speakers call the cat "el tigre", and that is just borrowed, obviously. The cat has a range from Mexico far into South America.

M-W Online:
Main Entry: jag·uar
Etymology: Spanish yaguar & Portuguese jaguar, from Guarani yaguara & Tupi jaguara
a large cat (Panthera onca syn. Felis onca) chiefly of Central and So. America that is larger and stockier than the leopard and is brownish yellow or buff with black spots

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[nq:1]Hello, All! A little while ago, there was a discussion of the authentic ethnic pronunciation of jaguar. I did query ... http://www.kidsspeakspanish.org/esp Vocab List SummerReading Maisy y Sus Amigos.shtml that produced this:- el jaguar, pronounced el hah-gwahr, meaning the jaguar .[/nq]
As far as I know, native Spanish speakers in Central and South America refer to the animal as 'el tigre'.

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[nq:1]As far as I know, native Spanish speakers in Central and South America refer to the animal as 'el tigre'.[/nq]
The (Spanish-language) Web page at
http://www.medioambiente.gov.ar/sian/sestero/especies.htm

identifies "yaguar" as one of the common names of the jaguar, others being "yaguaret=E9" and "tigre americano."

Raymond S. Wise
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[nq:2]Hello, All! A little while ago, there was a discussion ... this:- el jaguar, pronounced el hah-gwahr, meaning the jaguar .[/nq]
[nq:1]As far as I know, native Spanish speakers in Central and South America refer to the animal as 'el tigre'.[/nq]
Betweeen Mexico and Nicaragua there were 3 words for hitchhike, two for pig, and two for car, and no place used all of any category. I sort of doubt all of Latin America uses the same word for this animal.
[nq:2]It's far enough away from both US and British English ... the Amazonian people pronounce it. James Silverton Potomac, Maryland, USA[/nq]
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