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Andrei Posted 21 years ago
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Palestinian Prime Minister Ahmed Qurei has scrapped his proposed cabinet list and promised a fresh team after angry MPs threatened to vote him from office.
Almost all MPs who spoke in a stormy parliament session opposed a cabinet they said was stacked with members of the old guard tainted by corruption.
A new line-up of reform-minded technocrats will be presented on Wednesday, Mr Qurei told parliament.
MPs stressed the need to break with the legacy of late leader Yasser Arafat.
Correspondents say Arafat was known for picking his cabinet on the basis of candidates' loyalty rather than their competence.
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Would it be correct to say 'threatned to vote him from office' ?
I would write 'threatned to vote him out of office' or very simply 'threatned to expel him from the office'.
Your comments, please.
The words 'line-up' is hyphenated. Why is that?
The words reform-minded' are hyphenated. I have learnt the reason for it; it is a an adjective. The noun is the word 'technocrats'.
Almost all MPs who spoke in a stormy parliament session opposed a cabinet they said was stacked with members of the old guard tainted by corruption.
A new line-up of reform-minded technocrats will be presented on Wednesday, Mr Qurei told parliament.
MPs stressed the need to break with the legacy of late leader Yasser Arafat.
Correspondents say Arafat was known for picking his cabinet on the basis of candidates' loyalty rather than their competence.
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Would it be correct to say 'threatned to vote him from office' ?
I would write 'threatned to vote him out of office' or very simply 'threatned to expel him from the office'.
Your comments, please.
The words 'line-up' is hyphenated. Why is that?
The words reform-minded' are hyphenated. I have learnt the reason for it; it is a an adjective. The noun is the word 'technocrats'.
Top answer
Hello As you know I'm an English learner but allow me to throw my two cents. I think you are right. "Vote someone out from office" is an idiomatic phrase.
- Hello As you know I'm an English learner but allow me to throw my two cents.
- I think you are right.
- "Vote someone out from office" is an idiomatic phrase.
- Maybe the writer wrongly substituted "from" for "out of", since "out of" and "from" are often used interchangeably.
- The "line-up" can be read as a single noun word when "line" and "up" are hyphenated, while "line up" would be read as a verbal phrase.
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Hello
As you know I'm an English learner but allow me to throw my two cents. I think you are right. "Vote someone out from office" is an idiomatic phrase. Maybe the writer wrongly substituted "from" for "out of", since "out of" and "from" are often used interchangeably. The "line-up" can be read as a single noun word when "line" and "up" are hyphenated, while "line up" would be read as
As you know I'm an English learner but allow me to throw my two cents. I think you are right. "Vote someone out from office" is an idiomatic phrase. Maybe the writer wrongly substituted "from" for "out of", since "out of" and "from" are often used interchangeably. The "line-up" can be read as a single noun word when "line" and "up" are hyphenated, while "line up" would be read as
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Hello Andrei
Yes I think so.
My E-J dictionary gives "vote someone out of office" as an idiomatic phrase.
Another reason I believe so is that my google survey showed a result as follows;
"vote him out of office": 5870
"vote him from ofiice":20
The ratio is nearly 300 to 1.
That would be large enough to guess at least the use of the
Yes I think so.
My E-J dictionary gives "vote someone out of office" as an idiomatic phrase.
Another reason I believe so is that my google survey showed a result as follows;
"vote him out of office": 5870
"vote him from ofiice":20
The ratio is nearly 300 to 1.
That would be large enough to guess at least the use of the
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Paco
I wouldn't rely on the figues given by Google search. People are free to write rubbish on the Internet. Everything bundles together and shows by Google search.
I wouldn't rely on the figues given by Google search. People are free to write rubbish on the Internet. Everything bundles together and shows by Google search.
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Andrei
OK. I don't oppose to your opinion that the Internet postings are rubbish. It's your opinion and you are free to have such an opinion. I myself feel Google is not perfect as a linguistic corpus but I do not think all the postings are rubbish. I think Google is a (maybe only one) good resource to know in what way people are actually using English, though there may be some illitera
OK. I don't oppose to your opinion that the Internet postings are rubbish. It's your opinion and you are free to have such an opinion. I myself feel Google is not perfect as a linguistic corpus but I do not think all the postings are rubbish. I think Google is a (maybe only one) good resource to know in what way people are actually using English, though there may be some illitera
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Paco
I could write a rotten English grammar page. So you get even that when you search in a search engine. Everything bundles in one parcel. This is my point. All those who write English on the Internet are not experts in the language.
Google or other search engines don't filter the good from the bad. If you get 25000 hits for an English phrase, it includes everything.
I could write a rotten English grammar page. So you get even that when you search in a search engine. Everything bundles in one parcel. This is my point. All those who write English on the Internet are not experts in the language.
Google or other search engines don't filter the good from the bad. If you get 25000 hits for an English phrase, it includes everything.
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I agree to your opinion that search engines do not distinguish good English from bad English. But I think bad English is also a kind of English. As a learner of English, I have learned English through two means beside asking here to well-educated English teachers (I like this site because here plural moderators answer to our questions independently). The first is to consult with good voluminous d
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Hello Andrei and Paco
I would vote for 'threatened to vote him out of office'.
'Vote him from office' is perfectly intelligible; but 'into office', 'in office', and 'out of office' is the usual sequence.
Others may vote otherwise, though...
MrP
I would vote for 'threatened to vote him out of office'.
'Vote him from office' is perfectly intelligible; but 'into office', 'in office', and 'out of office' is the usual sequence.
Others may vote otherwise, though...
MrP
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