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Solder/Sodder

BrE speakers pronounce the 'L' in "solder."
AmE speakers pronounce the word "sodder."
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Etymology: Middle English soudur, from Old French soudure, soldure, from souder, soulder, to solder, from Latin solidre, to make solid, from solidus, solid. See solid.
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Was it ever pronounced "sodder" in BrE, or as "solder" in AmE?
  

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html Etymology: Middle English ... make solid, from solidus, solid. See solid.

  • html Etymology: Middle English ...
  • make solid, from solidus, solid.
  • See solid.
  • [/nq] I have been brazing and soldering for some sixty years and have never heard it called soddering in either the RAF or in teaching.
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[nq:1]BrE speakers pronounce the 'L' in "solder." AmE speakers pronounce the word "sodder." Sound file here: http://www.bartleby.com/61/54/S0545400.html Etymology: Middle English ... make solid, from solidus, solid. See solid. +++ Was it ever pronounced "sodder" in BrE, or as "solder" in AmE?[/nq]
I have
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[nq:1]BrE speakers pronounce the 'L' in "solder." AmE speakers pronounce the word "sodder." Sound file here: http://www.bartleby.com/61/54/S0545400.html Etymology: Middle English ... make solid, from solidus, solid. See solid. +++ Was it ever pronounced "sodder" in BrE, or as "solder" in AmE?[/nq]
In Scot
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[nq:1]BrE speakers pronounce the 'L' in "solder." AmE speakers pronounce the word "sodder." Sound file here: http://www.bartleby.com/61/54/S0545400.html Etymology: Middle English ... make solid, from solidus, solid. See solid. +++ Was it ever pronounced "sodder" in BrE, or as "solder" in AmE?[/nq]
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[nq:1]I have been brazing and soldering for some sixty years and have never heard it called soddering in either the RAF or in teaching.[/nq]
I have. I was in the RAF as an Air Radar Fitter from 1959 to 1963, and in 1961 I was sent to RAF Feltwell to be assistant to a guy (whose name I'm afraid I cannot recall) from North American Aircraft who was installing a Thor missile launch simulator and
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[nq:1]BrE speakers pronounce the 'L' in "solder." AmE speakers pronounce the word "sodder." Sound file here: http://www.bartleby.com/61/54/S0545400.html Etymology: Middle English ... make solid, from solidus, solid. See solid. +++ Was it ever pronounced "sodder" in BrE, or as "solder" in AmE?[/nq]
I can't
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[nq:1]Was it ever pronounced "sodder" in BrE,[/nq]
Yes, and also with a long o but no l (which is what the OED gives as the secondary British pronunciation).
[nq:1]or as "solder" in AmE?[/nq]
Not that I have heard.
The switchover to pronouncing the l or lengthening the o in Britain seems to have happened within the 20th century. Fowler, in the original MEU (1927), says
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Here in the US, "sod" means turf, and has nothing to do with sodomites, for which we have a lot of colorful alternatives.
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[nq:1]I can't say that it was ever pronounced "solder" in the US, but I was a US Navy trained solderer, ... "sodder". I have yet to hear anyone pronounce it "solder", even by people who do not know how to solder.[/nq]
I pronounce it "solder" (Toronto). "Sodder" sounds like something a plumber would say.
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[nq:2]I can't say that it was ever pronounced "solder" in ... even by people who do not know how to solder.[/nq]
[nq:1]I pronounce it "solder" (Toronto). "Sodder" sounds like something a plumber would say.[/nq]
Yeah, that makes sense. A plumber would always mispronounce something he uses every day.
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[nq:2]BrE speakers pronounce the 'L' in "solder." AmE speakers pronounce ... ever pronounced "sodder" in BrE, or as "solder" in AmE?[/nq]
[nq:1]In Scottish English, quite likely. Soldier is pronounced sodjer. m.[/nq]
Yes, but that's sewjur (sew being as per needle and thread), isn't it? Sodder is pronounced, er, sod-er (sod being as per Sodom).

I've always pronounced it the Englis

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