[skynews] the canoe man story

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well, you know, this week I watched a cool special on skynews, it was the "the canoe man story" that was a special (very funny for an italian watcher) about the missing englishman who disappeared for long time to stole lots of money from the assurance companies...

Well, expensive house or cars, and luxury lifestyle desn't match with credit cards, you know

))
Well, I watched the tv program, but you know, skynews sometimes is too british for me ;P and the program came on tv only one time so I didn't have the choice to listen again to check the misanderstanding points.

Well, the point is this one.
Skynews told the canone man stayed at home for a couple of year to improuve is barb on his face, but as far as I listenend, he also helped a neightbourd's son about a sat problems or about a decoder tv. Later the neightbours discovered on tv, the canone was still missing from this family.
The english police man, you know, he spoke with the reporter but, I don't catch too much about english rhythms and his answers. the policeman was too british for me

damn . I think I have to watch more skynews to improuve the oral comprehension about english rhythms... Well, you know, I'm not a good listener so it's possibile that I catched no right meanings of this part of the canone man story.

)
Well, you know, my question is:
what did the police? =8-)
you know, did they ask to the neightbours too, about the canone man? How was possible?
=8-)
How was possibile for the canone man to change is primary identity about his fake death? you know, things like the identity card or the drive licence... they are documents... how was it possibile for a normal man to *** all english systems??
Are english controls so dude or are the assurance companies so dork?? you know

what I mean

"I bit portano i caratteri.
I caratteri le parole.
Le parole, l'anima."
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well, you know, this week I watched a cool special on skynews, it was the "the canoe man story" that was a special (very funny for an italian watcher) about the missing englishman who disappeared for long time to stole lots of money from the assurance companies...

Well, expensive house or cars, and luxury lifestyle desn't match with credit cards, you know

))
Well, I watched the tv program, but you know, skynews sometimes is too british for me ;P and the program came on tv only one time so I didn't have the choice to listen again to check the misanderstanding points.

Well, the point is this one.
Skynews told the canone man stayed at home for a couple of year to improuve is barb on his face, but as far as I listenend, he also helped a neightbourd's son about a sat problems or about a decoder tv. Later the neightbours discovered on tv, the canone was still missing from this family.
The english police man, you know, he spoke with the reporter but, I don't catch too much about english rhythms and his answers. the policeman was too british for me

**** . I think I have to watch more skynews to improuve the oral comprehension about english rhythms... Well, you know, I'm not a good listener so it's possibile that I catched no right meanings of this part of the canone man story.

)
Well, you know, my question is:
what did the police? =8-)
you know, did they ask to the neightbours too, about the canone man? How was possible?
=8-)
How was possibile for the canone man to change is primary identity about his fake death? you know, things like the identity card or the drive licence... they are documents... how was it possibile for a normal man to *** all english systems??
Are english controls so dude or are the assurance companies so dork?? you know

what I mean

"I bit portano i caratteri.
I caratteri le parole.
Le parole, l'anima."
www.6502.4000.it

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[nq:1]well, you know, this week I watched a cool special on skynews, it was the "the canoe man story" that ... or the drive licence... they are documents... how was it possibile for a normal man to *** all english systems??[/nq]
We do not have Identity Cards in the United Kingdom (England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland).
John Darwin started using the name John Jones. This was the name of someone born in the same year as him but who had died at the age of five weeks.
John Darwin used John Jones's Birth Certificate and pretended that it was his own. Using it he was able to get a passport and a driving licence. Birth Certificates are public documents and official copies are available to anyone.
[nq:1]Are english controls so dude or are the assurance companies so dork?? you know

what I mean[/nq]
The controls are weak, but many law-abiding people prefer it that way. We see government issued ID cards as being associated with fascism and other forms of dictatorship.

Peter Duncanson, UK
(in uk.culture.language.english)

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[nq:1]How was possibile for the canone man to change is primary identity about his fake death? you know, things like ... english systems?? Are english controls so dude or are the assurance companies so dork?? you know

what I mean[/nq]
This news report describes how his death was officially certified:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1571771/Inquiry-into-death-certificate.html
Because all the evidence pointed to John Darwin having died in an accident at sea and his body having been washed away and not found, the Coroner's Inquest (a type of court proceeding) decided that John Darwin had died.
It seems that Mrs Darwin lied to the Inquest.

Peter Duncanson, UK
(in uk.culture.language.english)

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[nq:1]We do not have Identity Cards in the United Kingdom (England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland).WOW... why not?[/nq]
=8-7
[nq:1]John Darwin started using the name John Jones. This was the name of someone born in the same year as ... copies are available to anyone.this sounds odd, is there no control about who is alive and who is not? =8-7[/nq]
[nq:2]Are english controls so dude or are the assurance companies so dork?? you know

what I mean[/nq]
[nq:1]The controls are weak,that's not the fact od strong or weak controls, the point is silly controls or cool controls ... a funny words, all the british companies, pension funds, assicurative companies and so on, imho they seem quite "suckers"

[/nq]
"I bit portano i caratteri.
I caratteri le parole.
Le parole, l'anima."
www.6502.4000.it

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[nq:1]This news report describes how his death was officially certified: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1571771/Inquiry-into-death-certific ate.htmlthank you, I appreciate! Because all the evidence pointed ... Inquest.ya, that's a fact, I understand the part of skynews reports about why the canoe man come back to england.[/nq]
I did not understand the main part about the policeman interview... too british for me

)

"I bit portano i caratteri.
I caratteri le parole.
Le parole, l'anima."
www.6502.4000.it

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[nq:2]We do not have Identity Cards in the United Kingdom (England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland).[/nq]
[nq:1]WOW... why not? =8-7[/nq]
Their introduction was rejected on the grounds of individual rights having priority over state control. This has a strong tradition in English-speaking countries. You'll find that there are no state idetity cards in Ireland, Canada, the United States, Australia or New Zealand either.
Regards, Einde O'Callaghan

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Il Sun, 27 Jul 2008 12:38:06 +0200, Einde O'Callaghan ha scritto:
[nq:2]WOW... why not? =8-7[/nq]
[nq:1]Their introduction was rejected on the grounds of individual rights having priority over state control. Thys has a strong tradition ... can you prove that you are who you are saying about when you make a sticky contract and so on...[/nq]
=8-7

"I bit portano i caratteri. I caratteri le parole. Le parole, l'anima." www.6502.4000.it

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[nq:1]Il Sun, 27 Jul 2008 12:38:06 +0200, Einde O'Callaghan ha scritto:[/nq]
[nq:2]Their introduction was rejected on the grounds of individual rights having priority over state control. Thys has a strong tradition in English-speaking countries.[/nq]
[nq:1]this strong tradition grows up lots of sucker :-) if may I express my opinion, as the evidence are showing about the canoe man story[/nq]
Such things happen only rarely - that's why this story made the news. Falsification of identities is also possible in countries with ID cards too. Here in Germany at least a couple of these make the news every year.
[nq:2]You'll find that there are no state idetity cards in Ireland, Canada, the United States, Australia or New Zealand either.[/nq]
[nq:1]Well, you don't have any identity documents to show who you are? How can you prove that you are who you are saying about when you make a sticky contract and so on...[/nq]
There are other forms of ID other than state identity cards, e.g. bank and credit cards, driving licences (the most common one), passports etc.

REgards, Einde O'Callaghan

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Il Sun, 27 Jul 2008 13:50:37 +0200, Einde O'Callaghan ha scritto:
[nq:2]Il Sun, 27 Jul 2008 12:38:06 +0200, Einde O'Callaghan ha ... as the evidence are showing about the canoe man story[/nq]
[nq:1]Such things happen only rarely - that's why this story made the news. Falsification of identities is also possible in ... but it's not so easy as the canoe man did, simply on using a birth certificate of a died person[/nq]
;P
that's not the point about weak controls versus strong controls, the point turns around about silly controls and cool controls

;-)
[nq:2]Well, you don't have any identity documents to show who ... about when you make a sticky contract and so on...[/nq]
[nq:1]There are other forms of ID other than state identity cards, e.g. bank and credit cards, driving licences (the most common one), passports etc.That's a ricorsive problem as I see.[/nq]
-)
To have passports, credit cards, driving license, which ID can you show to prove that you are really who you are saying about. Is it necessary a certificate of birth to have driving license or others ID ??
Too british for me...
;-)

"I bit portano i caratteri. I caratteri le parole. Lu parole, l'anima." www.6502.4000.it

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[nq:1]Il Sun, 27 Jul 2008 13:50:37 +0200, Einde O'Callaghan ha scritto:[/nq]
I can only speak for the conditions for getting an Irish passport. In order to get a passport for the first time you have to get your identity verified by an identifiable person of authority, i.e. a policeman, a doctor, a bank manager, a head teacher or similar person. When you want to renew your passport you just have to present your old passport along with the new pictures, signature etc. Obviously if your appearance has changed beyond recognition or the signature is unrecognisable the authorities will refuse to renew your passport until you provide similar verification of your identity.
It works and people prefer it that way. The few cases of fraud are not sufficiently numerous to convince people of the necessity for change. The current debate in Britain about introducing identity cards shows this. In general people just don't trust the government or the authorities with too much personal information.
Regards, Einde O'Callaghan

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