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K.O. Posted 21 years ago
Grammar

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'Three of the bombers have also been comfirmed dead.'

is it a telegraphic kind of expression which should be like;

'three of the bombers have also been confirmed to be dead' or common in formal speech/writing too?

Thanks
  

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' It's a common expression just like, "the victims were rushed to hospital but were pronounced dead on arrival.

  • ' It's a common expression just like, "the victims were rushed to hospital but were pronounced dead on arrival.
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'Three of the bombers have also been comfirmed dead.'

It's a common expression just like, "the victims were rushed to hospital but were pronounced dead on arrival.
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The lexical definition of "confirm" is as follows.



  1. confirm, corroborate, sustain, substantiate, support, affirm -- (establish or strengthen as with new evidence or facts; "his story confirmed my doubts"; "The evidence supports the defendant")



  2. confirm, reassert -- (strengthen or make more firm; "The witnesses confirmed the victim's account")
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Paco,

My Merriam-Webster has 'confirmed' as an adjective.
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Hello Davkett

I know "confirmed" itself can be used as an adjective. What I am saying is that I cannot find any lexical description that confirms that an adjective can follow the object of the verb "confirm".

paco
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'Three of the bombers have also been confirmed dead.'

Paco, I ask your indulgence for a moment. In the quoted sentence, can we not read the term 'confirmed dead' as an adjective?

Like: three of the confirmed dead bombers.
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The adjective "confirmed" is normally used as an attributive adjective (that is, an adjective that comes before a noun). We might say "the confirmed dead", where "confirmed" can be interpreted as an attributive adjective modifying the collective noun "the dead". But I am not sure whether "the confirmed dead bombers" is a right English phrase. It sounds to me as if "confirmed" behaves like an adver
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I wonder whether we can take 'dead' in this example as a subject complement (predicate adjective).

MrP
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I confess that I can't keep up with you advanced teachers on grammatical terminology, but why couldn't 'confirmed dead' be equivalent syntactically to 'stone dead'.
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Hi guys,

I'm late to this discussion but I don't see what the real difficulty is.

We can say

'She has been considered beautiful (by all who know her)'

We can say

'She has been confirmed dead (by a doctor)'

Surely it's just a passive form with 'to be dead', where 'to be' is omitted.

Sorry if I'm missing the point at issue.

Cl
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Hi Davkett

I don't like you to get fed up with technical terms. But the "stone" in "stone dead" is a relic of Old English's noun usage called "adverbial accusative". You have a lot of similar phrases. "Her skin is snow white", "The stars are diamond bright", "It was pitch dark inside the room", etc.

paco

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