Situation that we break TV up happens.

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Situation that we break TV up happens.Is the sentence fine to use so can we say situation = that we break TV or should it be Situation in which we break TV up happens? What do you native English speakers think? Thank you so much as usual in advance!

Deadrat · Accepted Answer

I'd tell you if I knew what "break TV up happens" means.

Hans51 · Answer

Actually I do not know what exactly it means because I just found it on some website and then I will change my question so the word situation is also used the way words like plan, goal, news, etc with that clauses as an apposition like

I heard of the news that the war broke out.

My plan that I will go to the place is cancelled.

And then is there any cases where situation is used like above and could you give me any examples, if you do not mind?

Thank you so much as usual!

Deadrat · Answer

I'm sorry, but I still have little idea of what you're talking about.

I heard that war broke out in Ukraine.

(What you heard is clearly news, so you don't need to call it news. You don't need the definite article in front of war, because historians rarely name wars at their inception.)

So my plans to visit that country were cancelled.

Does that help?

Hans51 · Answer

I am sorry for not being smart with this and to be honest, the reason I got confused with usage of the word situation is the reply I got from you the other day : "It" is a placeholder for "the situation."

A: I can’t see the point of smoking.
B: It's better that you don't know.

What is the 'situation' here? Can we say that the situation is 'It's better that you don't know'? And then the situation is an apposition of 'It's better that you don't know' like the situation = It's better that you don't know, isn't it?

I do not know why it is bothering me a lot but I really would like to hear from you again

Thank you so much!

Deadrat · Answer

No need for an apology, not least because this isn't a matter of being smart. Sorry to have been confusing.

To make sense of a pronoun in a sentence, you need to know the pronoun's antecedent, i.e., what the pronoun refers to. Thus in the sentence

I took my shirt off because it had a hole in the sleeve.

it's clear that "it" refers to the shirt. But when you have a placeholder subject like "it" in B's reply to A, the antecedent for the pronoun isn't as specific. What is the "better" thing that "it" refers to? Is it A's not seeing? Is it a point? Is it smoking?

In fact, it's the entire context of B's smoking that B is talking about. I called that "the situation," that is, the state of things relevant to the conversation. To expand, B is saying, "If you knew what point I'm making when I smoke, if you understood why I smoke, you would be appalled and disappointed and upset. And that would be a bad thing."

I hope that's clear. Or at least clearer. Let me know.

Situation that we break TV up happens.

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I heard that war broke out in Ukraine.

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