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Singular they

Sentences like "Everybody is required to show THEIR ID when THEY cross the gate." or "Anyone who calls will have THEIR number registered." are grammatically absurd. How can we begin a sentence with a singular subject and verb and end up with plurals?
I think we should make up a new pronoun and possessive adjective that would resolve that issue. Why don't we simply pick up the neutral IT?

"Everybody is required to show its ID when it crosses the gate." "Anyone who calls will have its number registered."

No more he/she, his/her, no more singular they. A singular leads to a singular.
  

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" or "Anyone who calls will have ... " No more he/she, his/her, no more singular they. [/nq] This is the single most common "point" raised in aue and aeu.

  • " or "Anyone who calls will have ...
  • " No more he/she, his/her, no more singular they.
  • [/nq] This is the single most common "point" raised in aue and aeu.
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[nq:1]Sentences like "Everybody is required to show THEIR ID when THEY cross the gate." or "Anyone who calls will have ... calls will have its number registered." No more he/she, his/her, no more singular they. A singular leads to a singular.[/nq]
This is the single most common "point" raised in aue and aeu. I will say no more than:
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[nq:1]Sentences like "Everybody is required to show THEIR ID when THEY cross the gate." or "Anyone who calls will have THEIR number registered." are grammatically absurd. How can we begin a sentence with a singular subject and verb and end up with plurals?[/nq]
They are no more absurd than the use of "you" for both the singular and the plural. It has been an integral part of the English langua
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On 11/20/03 1:36 PM, in article
[nq:1]Sentences like "Everybody is required to show THEIR ID when THEY cross the gate." or "Anyone who calls will have ... "Everybody is required to show its ID when it crosses the gate." "Anyone who calls will have its number registered."[/nq]
That would be every bit as "absurd" as using singular "they". How can we begin a sentence with an animate subject a
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[nq:2]Sentences like "Everybody is required to show THEIR ID when ... the gate." "Anyone who calls will have its number registered."[/nq]
This would be a great help to all those not clever enough to reword appropriately, e.g.
Identity documents must be shown.
The number of each caller will be registered.

Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs (Ottawa, Canada)
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[nq:1]I think we should make up a new pronoun and possessive adjective that would resolve that issue. . . .[/nq]
I think we should avoid trolls.

Cordially,
Eric Walker
My opinions on English are available at
http://owlcroft.com/english/
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That's the ignorant neopossessive "its". The proper third person inanimate genitive is "his".
[nq:1]This would be a great help to all those not clever enough to reword appropriately, e.g. Identity documents must be shown. The number of each caller will be registered.[/nq]
Those are passive, which is just as bad as singular they.

Anyone who calls is required to show that his or her
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[nq:1]Those are passive, which is just as bad as singular they.[/nq]
The thing about the whole mess that baffles me most is that despite just about everybody's recognizing a serious defect in the language that one eentsy-weentsy little term, almost certainly one syllable, would resolve happily, no one has ever been able to conjure any such term that could gain the least shred of popular suppor
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[nq:1]Sentences like "Everybody is required to show THEIR ID when THEY cross the gate." or "Anyone who calls will have THEIR number registered." are grammatically absurd. How can we begin a sentence with a singular subject and verb and end up with plurals?[/nq]
Troll?

Marc Lombart 20/11/2003 21:01:30 http://www.marcmy
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[nq:2]Sentences like "Everybody is required to show THEIR ID when ... a singular subject and verb and end up with plurals?[/nq]
[nq:1]Troll?[/nq]
De facto, if not in intent. All "singular they" does is roil the waters of the usage groups. As Eric Walker has observed, you'd think that by now the language would have come up with a solution better than "they." But it hasn't. After that, it's
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On 11/20/03 5:42 PM, in article
[nq:2]Those are passive, which is just as bad as singular they.[/nq]
[nq:1]The thing about the whole mess that baffles me most is that despite just about everybody's recognizing a serious defect ... than any yet suggested for a neutral personal singular pronoun have been happily adopted to meet needs far less obvious.[/nq]I think the answer is really quite s

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