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Trex Posted 19 years ago
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But since an economic boom in the 1980s, large numbers of rural Turks moved to the cities, forming a new Islamic middle class with its own wealthy elite. (NYTimes)



Why the Simple Past Tense? Why not the Present Perfect?
  

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Excellent question! I would have written have moved . I see this is from the New York Times.

  • Excellent question!
  • I would have written have moved .
  • I see this is from the New York Times.
  • Note that in American English, the simple past is sometimes used where the present perfect is expected.
  • CJ
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Excellent question! I would have written have moved. I see this is from the New York Times. Note that in American English, the simple past is sometimes used where the present perfect is expected.

CJ
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Yes, it is from NYTimes. The last paragraph. And what you said is really interesting. Thank you, Jim.

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That could be a mistake... you know, like when you say that you saw a movie back in 1945, when you were young, and you don't like it. Didn't like it.
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What about this, Jim?

Children don't play outside as much since computer games arrived. (Longman)

It seems the use of since is not restricted to the perfect tenses in the main clause. What do you think?
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But since an economic boom in the 1980s, large numbers of rural Turks moved to the cities, forming a new Islamic middle class with its own wealthy elite. That religious class, in the form of Mr. Erdogan’s party, pushed to the upper reaches of the state’s power in April, when it tried to capture the presidency
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But since an economic boom in the 1980s, large numbers of rural Turks moved to the cities, forming a new Islamic middle class with its own wealthy elite. That religious class, in the form of Mr. Erdogan’s party, pushed to the upper reaches of the state’s power in April, when it tried to capture th
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Children don't play outside as much since computer games arrived. (Longman)

It seems the use of since is not restricted to the perfect tenses in the main clause. What do you think?
I think that's right. Here you have a very good sentence with since, and you have the present tense in the main clause.
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CalifJim

Children don't play outside as much since computer games arrived. (Longman)

It seems the use of since is not restricted to the perfect tenses in the main clause. What do you think?
I think that's right. Here you have a very good sentence with since, and you

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