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Diamondrg Posted 21 years ago
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since
as a time adverb as far as I know since can be used in these ways:
1- Present Perfect//since//Simple Past
She's lost over 20 Ibs in weight since she started that diet.
2- Past Perfect//since// Simple Past
The place had completely changed since I went there three years ago.
3- Present Perfect Continuous//since//Present Perfect
She's made a lot of friends since she's been living here.
4- Past Perfect//since//Simple Past
Yesterday Bobby told me he hadn't eaten since Tuesday.
but the sentence below is against the rule. can you explain the reason why simple past//since// past perfect is used in the sentence?
He ate well for the first time since he had left the camp for his last shift of work
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1- Present Perfect//since//Simple Past
She's lost over 20 Ibs in weight since she started that diet.
2- Past Perfect//since// Simple Past
The place had completely changed since I went there three years ago.
3- Present Perfect Continuous//since//Present Perfect
She's made a lot of friends since she's been living here.
4- Past Perfect//since//Simple Past
Yesterday Bobby told me he hadn't eaten since Tuesday.
but the sentence below is against the rule. can you explain the reason why simple past//since// past perfect is used in the sentence?
He ate well for the first time since he had left the camp for his last shift of work
http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache:NfwZkf5QgE0J:www.freeonlinereading.com/C7.htm+%22He+ate+well+for+the+first+time+since+he%22&hl=tr
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I know I'm not answering your question, but 3. doesn't seem correct to me. I would write "since she started living here/since she moved here".
- I know I'm not answering your question, but 3.
- doesn't seem correct to me.
- I would write "since she started living here/since she moved here".
- I can't find an example where "since" is used with the present perfect (in the meaning "from the moment, day, year...
- when).
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I know I'm not answering your question, but 3. doesn't seem correct to me. I would write "since she started living here/since she moved here". I can't find an example where "since" is used with the present perfect (in the meaning "from the moment, day, year... when). It refers to a precise moment in the past, and the correct tense is the simple past.
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That sentence you are referring to is from Longman Contemporary English, Pieanne. I find it hard to understand why we need to say that instead of what you said, too. A native speaker can clarify these for us I think.
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Oh! Well, it just doesn't seem right to me but yes, let's wait for a native...
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All I can say, as a native speaker, is that no.3 (She's made a lot of friends since she's been living here) is commonly heard. I think Pieanne has a point, though, from the grammatical/semantical angle. Since would have to be understood as during the time; I don't kno
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thank you davkett and pieanne.
but what about this?
He ate well for the first time since he had left the camp for his last shift of work
it comes to me since has been used here as if it were "after".
Alice felt more independent after she had learnt to drive.
but what about this?
He ate well for the first time since he had left the camp for his last shift of work
it comes to me since has been used here as if it were "after".
Alice felt more independent after she had learnt to drive.
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