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Magic79 Posted 19 years ago
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00 I heard a native speaker of American English say: 02 br
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00 A "I 01 u 00 did not go 02 u 00 there since 10 am." 02 br
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00 B "I 01 u 00 have not gone 02 u 00 there since 10 am." 02 br
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00 Do native speakers find the first sentence palatable? Is it good English? I am starting to feel that it is common usage to use A. 0-
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00 I heard a native speaker of American English say: 02 br
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00 Do native speakers find the first sentence palatable? Is it good English? I am starting to feel that it is common usage to use A. 0-
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0 Hello Magic 79 02 br 02 br 00 As far as I know Americans prefer using the simple past instead of present perfect, at least that's what they did when I was in New York and Boston. I was taught that the correct form with since and for is the present perfect, but if you are in the US and say the sentence A it is good as well 05 0 010id 5
- 0 Hello Magic 79 02 br 02 br 00 As far as I know Americans prefer using the simple past instead of present perfect, at least that's what they did when I was in New York and Boston.
- I was taught that the correct form with since and for is the present perfect, but if you are in the US and say the sentence A it is good as well 05 0 010id 5
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0 Hello Magic 79 02 br
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00 As far as I know Americans prefer using the simple past instead of present perfect, at least that's what they did when I was in New York and Boston. I was taught that the correct form with since and for is the present perfect, but if you are in the US and say the sentence A it is good as well 05 0 010id 5
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00 As far as I know Americans prefer using the simple past instead of present perfect, at least that's what they did when I was in New York and Boston. I was taught that the correct form with since and for is the present perfect, but if you are in the US and say the sentence A it is good as well 05 0 010id 5
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0 My opinion is that in a sentence containing something such as "since 10 a.m." you will hear Americans both the simple past tense and the present perfect. However, you'll hear the present perfect used more frequently in more formal language in the US. 02 br
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00 I read this sentence, written by a Brit, the other day: 02 br
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1 font 00 Hi, Yankee. Is it true of all "since" expressions. 02 font 02 br
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00 I ran into him at 10 o'clock this morning just before the board meeting; I ---- him since. 02 br
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00 A) will not have seen B) didn't see C) haven't seen 02 br
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00 A) will not have seen B) didn't see C) haven't seen 02 br
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01 cite 10 Yankee 12 cite 10 " 11 i 10 My job 11 u 10 has gone 12 u 10 because my boss 11 u 10 has fired 12 u 10 me. 12 i 10 " 12 blockquote10 That sounds alien to me as a Brit. I would say: " 01 i 00 I lost my job 02 i 00 " or " 01 i 00 My boss fired me 0
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1 i 00 My job 01 u 00 has gone 02 u 00 because my boss 01 u 00 has fired 02 u 00 me. 02 i 02 br
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00 This sentence does not make sense because it is obvious that if your boss fired you, your job would be gone. It goes without saying. 0-
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00 This sentence does not make sense because it is obvious that if your boss fired you, your job would be gone. It goes without saying. 0-
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0 Hi Bokeh and Trex 02 br
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00 Yes, I agree that a sentence such as "I lost my job" would be the most likely or typical. I also found the original sentence odd. My focus was on the use of the present perfect in this case. What do you think of the first half as a stand-alone sentence? "My job has gone." That part sounded especially odd to me. 02 br
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00 Yes, I agree that a sentence such as "I lost my job" would be the most likely or typical. I also found the original sentence odd. My focus was on the use of the present perfect in this case. What do you think of the first half as a stand-alone sentence? "My job has gone." That part sounded especially odd to me. 02 br
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0 Thank you Franecsca, Yankee, and the rest of the gang. 02 br
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0 “My job has gone” sounds odd, and may even be wrong, because the writer was describing the status of his or her job, and that status didn’t change; it remained steady since he had been fired, so it’s almost like a “general truth” that requires a simple present tense. 02 br
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