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Taka Posted 21 years ago
Grammar

simple question (supposedly)

Art works speak not only to their own time but to worlds beyond, to future generations, to a mass society connected by international communications that their creators could not suspect would ever come into being.

Which does 'that' refer to, 'international communications' or 'a mass society (connected by internatinal communications)'?

I think it's 'international communications', but I'm not sure on this one...
  

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Hello, Taka! I'd say it refers either to "international communications" (the nearest to "that"), or to the whole, from "worlds beyond" to "international communications" (the creators couldn't imagine any of them ever coming into being).

  • Hello, Taka!
  • I'd say it refers either to "international communications" (the nearest to "that"), or to the whole, from "worlds beyond" to "international communications" (the creators couldn't imagine any of them ever coming into being).
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Hello, Taka!

I'd say it refers either to "international communications" (the nearest to "that"), or to the whole, from "worlds beyond" to "international communications" (the creators couldn't imagine any of them ever coming into being).
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Taka,

Artists have always understood that their work has the potential to reach 'far afield'. Even Van Gogh, who sold only one painting during his lifetime (and it was his brother who bought it), knew -- and we know that he knew (from the letters he wrote) -- that he was painting for history. But no artist before the computer age likely had a concept of international, communication in
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davkett,

If my memory serves me right, you are an artist as well. Am I right?

Very persuasive your answer is. I think it was definitely your kind of question.

Thank you!
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You're right, Davkett.

I'm practising taking off my grammar specs and putting them back on, Emotion: smile
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Taka Am I right?
Yep.
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Do you make a living by it, may I ask?
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Dear friends,

It is not I think a precise utterance. What «worlds beyond» may mean, I do not pretend to know. But we may suppose that creators of art works knew that «future generations» would exist. We may also suppose that «mass society» and «international communications» are not new. The combination and extent of both, however, is perhaps new.

Therefore I submit tha
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(I would prefer to say, 'I make a life by it.')

What do you do for making a living, Taka?
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I agree with Goldmund's corrected version of the tense...and secondly, with his opinion that the whole preceding clause is the referent for 'that'..and thirdly, with the [grammatical] imprecision in the original quotation.
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DavkettWhat do you do for making a living, Taka?

Me? Teaching English here in Japan.

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