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Anonymous Posted 12 years ago
Grammar

Simple Past or Past Perfect

Hi there.

I've got a strange multiple choice question. I couldn't answer the question. Here it is:

By the time his father _____ in 1894, Charles was not quite 15 years old, but within the same year he____ full recognition as King.

A-) died / won 
B-) had died / won 
C-) died / had won 

I need an explanation. Thanks. 
  

Top answer

It is died as die is an event happening at a certain time and it is had won because the reference is till a particular time- till the end of the year.

  • It is died as die is an event happening at a certain time and it is had won because the reference is till a particular time- till the end of the year.
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C - died and had won is my choice.It is died as die is an event happening at a certain time and it is had won because the reference is till a particular time- till the end of the year.
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B -Grammatically, B is the correct choice. Past perfect should go with the earlier event..
A - is possible ( in a dialog)
C - Is understood, but may be viewed as incorrect because the past perfect was used in the "but" clause.
It is tricky, but B is my choice for a test; even though my instinct tells me C.
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So the Charles became a king before his father died?
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It first appeared to me C was the correct answer as well. But by rule, the earlier event (died) should take the Past perfect, not "had won".
Look at these examples:
  • When I got home yesterday, my father had already cooked dinner.
  • I didn't want to go to the movies with my friends because
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AnonymousSo the Charles became a king before his father died?
No, his after had died before he won full recognition ...
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It seems like B to me.

By the time his father had died in 1894 (earliest event),
Charles was not quite 15 years old (at the time of the earliest event, but still in the past),
but within the same year he won full recognition as King. (after the previously mentioned event, but still in the past).
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In my opinion, A is the choice. It's a logical sequence of events so the simple past, used as a sort of narrative, is acceptable.
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One of the main uses of the past perfect tense (had + past participle) is to refer to an event or condition that occurred before another event or time in the past. It's like the past of the past.

In your example there are two time periods mentioned, "in 1894" and "but within the same year". These are two distinct time periods even if it doesn't seem like it at first. If the sentence ha
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It's a tricky question, and you have several opinions here already. More are likely to come! Actually, I don't think the question is a good one...

When you have two events that happen at different times and are linked together, we use the past perfect with the earlier to show the temporal sequence. For example:

He had lived in London for several years (the earlier event
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AlpheccaStarsActually, I don't think the question is a good one...
Emotion: yes

CJ

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