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Eddie88 Posted 17 years ago
Grammar

Simple or complex clauses, which one?

Hi, these are sentences from another forum, which have created a lengthy debate. Some of them are difficult to determine if they are simple or complex clauses; that is, what types of clauses exist in these sentences.

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1.There was a welter of signs at the corner, each pointing in a different direction.

2. We watched Tim glut himself on pizza.

3. The butcher sold the entrails of the cow at a lower price than the other parts.

4. Seeing the barrow, the women knew they had found the grave of her grandfather.

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Please identify the independent clauses and dependent clauses that exist in these clauses.

Thanks in advance.
  

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Hi, Different people have different definitions of what constitutes a clause. I consider 1, 2 and 3 to each consist of one clause. #4 has a main clause, followed by a subordinate clause.

  • Hi, Different people have different definitions of what constitutes a clause.
  • I consider 1, 2 and 3 to each consist of one clause.
  • #4 has a main clause, followed by a subordinate clause.
  • However, I'm sure you have a more complex definition.
  • Best wishes, Clive
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Hi,
Different people have different definitions of what constitutes a clause. I consider 1, 2 and 3 to each consist of one clause. #4 has a main clause, followed by a subordinate clause.

However, I'm sure you have a more complex definition.

Best wishes, Clive
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Thanks, Clive! I agree that everyone has different definitions of what constitutes a clause.

Here is how I see them:

1.There was a welter of signs at the corner, each pointing in a different direction.

Main clause, participle phrase

2. We watched Tim glut himself on pizza.

Mai
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Hi,

I agree with you..

3. The butcher sold the entrails of the cow at a lower price than the other parts.

I agree with you, but I suppose one could also debate whether the latter phrase is really a clause. eg Perhaps one might also interpret it as The butcher sold the entrails of the cow at a lower price than the price of the other parts.

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4. Seeing the barrow, the women knew they had found the grave of her (their?) grandfather.
A noun subordinate clause.


Yes, a noun/complement clause with the omitted complementizer (that). If you read the sentence aloud with 'that' included, it seems very strange; the omittion makes the sentence flow far better!

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