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How is it most correct?This custom shows the same (as?) the mentioned story does/shows(?).This custom shows the same thing (as?) the mentioned story does/shows(?).I.e. by inserting “as,” or not, and inserting “the thing” or not? And using “does” or “shows”?

CalifJim · Accepted Answer

I'm not sure that a custom can show things. Maybe it illustrates some principle or attitude?

Also, "mentioned story" is a strange combination in English. Just "story" seems enough.

Maybe,
This custom illustrates the same principle [as / that] the story does.

You can use "as" or "that".

CJ

KaaJee · Answer

Thank you very much!
“Illustrates” isn’t the best word for me, for some reason (you too have said "maybe"), but the point is that “shows” was wrong, so what about the following?
The essence of the Celtic ceremony is the same as that of the Greek myth.
Or should I say, the C. ceremony has the same essence as that of the G. myth?

Now the usage of different nation-names was a solution, but in other cases it isn’t possible, so, second problem:
Well, I’ve written “mentioned story” or something similar quite often. I don’t know if “mentioned” is unusual also in cases like these:
I’ve brought the mentioned book.
I’ve put the pot to the mentioned place.
As for writing “mentioned story,” I mean “above-mentioned” story, but there are cases that I talk about some story in my work, summarizing it in a few sentences, and then I talk about other things, so it is 2 or 3 pages later that I write something like this: “we’ve seen something similar in the mentioned story.” So “above mentioned” may require a shorter distance then 2 or 3 pages. And simple “story” would make the reader ask what kind of story. Even if I said, say, “we’ve seen this also in the story about the seven dwarfs” (instead of “in the mentioned story about the...”), the reader would think about the tale about Snow White, though previously I talked about another a story (suppose there is such one) which has nothing to do with her story.

CalifJim · Answer

KaaJeeso what about the following?The essence of the Celtic ceremony is the same as that of the Greek myth.

Sounds all right to me.

KaaJeeOr should I say, the C. ceremony has the same essence as that of the G. myth?

That's the same meaning, but not as well said in my opinion.

KaaJeementioned story,

Given how you want to use it, say "the previously mentioned story" or "the story mentioned previously" or "the story mentioned earlier" or "the story referred to previously" or "the story referred to earlier". You can also refer to the story more specifically than just saying it was previously mentioned: "the story about the fish", "the story about the hero's quest", "the story about the haunted house", or whatever it is about that story that can identify it for the reader.

CJ

KaaJee · Answer

OK, thanks very much!

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