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New2grammar Posted 18 years ago
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She says what she means and she means what she says

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0I would say, no. Perhaps if you looked at it as an algebraic equation, you could say both clauses give the same information. A = C = B is the same equation as B = C = A, where "C" is the idea or substance of what she says and means.

— Avangi

  • 0I would say, no.
  • Perhaps if you looked at it as an algebraic equation, you could say both clauses give the same information.
  • A = C = B is the same equation as B = C = A, where "C" is the idea or substance of what she says and means.
  • But meaning and saying are two different verbs and describe two different processes.
  • 02br 02br 00On the connotative level the difference is even greater.
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0I would say, no. Perhaps if you looked at it as an algebraic equation, you could say both clauses give the same information. A = C = B is the same equation as B = C = A, where "C" is the idea or substance of what she says and means. But meaning and saying are two different verbs and describe two different processes. So even on the denotative level, the sentence is not redundant.02br
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0I looked at it as an equation. Clearly, language isn't the same as science. 02br
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01cite10New2grammar12cite10[She says what she means] and [she means what she says]12br
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10It's not at all redundant. When you say this about someone you are complimenting them. It means tha
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0I agree with Ray. Honesty and honorableness are factors I neglected to include. Of course, additional context may shade the meanings of the expressions.0-
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0Didn't Alice and the Caterpillar discuss this in 01i00Alice in Wonderland02i00?0-
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01cite10Grammar Geek12cite10Didn't Alice and the Caterpillar discuss this in 11i10Alice in Wonderland12i10?12br
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10Most likely, although I have to admit that I've never read that book [shame on me!].02br
00I was reminded however, of, "I meant what I said and I sai
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0Ah ha!02br
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01b00Alice and March Hare:02b00 Quotes: Alice in Wonderland02br
01b00March Hare:02b00 …Then you should say what you mean. 02br
01b00Alice:02b00 I do; at least - at least I mean what I say -- that's the same thing, you know.02br
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0 And, as I remember it, there was a sort of punch line that came next, where one of them said to the dormouse that, in his case, it 01u00was02u00the same thing. 05002br
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0LOL. It's so funny! 0-
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