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Sextus Posted 21 years ago
Linguistics Studies

She don't?

In several American movies I've heard (perhaps I've misunderstood) expressions like "She don't know", "He don't live here". The contexts were quite familiar or informal. I know this must be speaking English, but I would like to know what you think about this.

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These are examples of either standard English for a dialect other than Standard English or they are examples of non-standard Standard English. English has many different registers. The way English is actually used in REAL life is not the manner described by most grammar books.

  • These are examples of either standard English for a dialect other than Standard English or they are examples of non-standard Standard English.
  • English has many different registers.
  • The way English is actually used in REAL life is not the manner described by most grammar books.
  • Yesterday, I watched a video of Senator Joe Biden, [being interviewed by Tim Russert], in which he said, "There ain't no lockbox.
  • " Now, lest anyone think that Joe Biden is an uneducated man, read this; ------------------ Joseph R.
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These are examples of either standard English for a dialect other than Standard English or they are examples of non-standard Standard English.

English has many different registers. The way English is actually used in REAL life is not the manner described by most grammar books. Yesterday, I watched a video of Senator Joe Biden, [being interviewed by Tim Russert], in which he said,
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In screenplays such words are often put into the mouths of characters to show that they are from a lower socio-economic class.
In your own language, too, you can probably think of some ways of speaking which show what social class a person belongs to.

CJ
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Sometimes well educated people say such things to attract attention, to stress informality, or to joke.
I think most people would agree that it is NOT STANDARD ENGLISH
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Learners of English should trust their text books!
Let us not complicate things and confuse learners by discussing what is clearly not Standard English, at least not in this [ EDIT General Grammar Questions] section of the forum.
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I have to say I feel a bit embarrassed after having read some of the responses. . . but then again maybe I read wrong. "She don't", as has already been mentioned, is non-Standard English, but allow me to add that it is English, notably a variant of Ebonics or Ebonics itself, a dialect spoken in the USA, and it has rules just like the Standard dialect. In other words, Sextus, it's a dialect
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And I really, REALLY resent Mike's unfair editing of this thread. Completely out of line. He has not only deleted some of what I've written, he's softened his remarks. Absolutely unbelievable!

In the interests of both fairness and intellectual honesty, why didn't you just move the pertinent info to another thread, Mike?
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I can't agree more with you, Casi. Purists may call this speech pattern non-standard English, but all said and done, it is English. All varieties of English, any language for that matter, including this one, have their own set of established standards and are governed by their linguistic and cultural rules which are followed by most speakers of that dialect. This particular dialect of English tha
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Point taken JTT.
Those who would like to continue this discussion are encouraged to do so here in the Linguistics section, where such a discussion would not confuse those new to English.
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In several American movies I've heard (perhaps I've misunderstood) expressions like "She don't know", "He don't live here". The contexts were quite familiar or informal. I know this must be speaking English, but I would like to know what you think about this.


I think it's wonderful. No doubt if it's a "non-standard" dialect. But it shows very exciting phenomena f
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Yes, but just because someone is about to fall off a cliff is no reason to push the poor guy. Emotion: smile

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