The prodigiously successful screenwriter of Lethal Weapon, The Last Boy Scout and The Long Kiss Goodnight is back after an eight-year career break with a razor-sharp comedy thriller inspired by hard-boiled detective fiction and classic film noir. In Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang, Robert Downey Jr plays a luckless thief who gets whisked away to Hollywood for a screen test, only to find himself embroiled in a convoluted mystery involving a gay private eye (Val Kilmer) and more than one dead body. It's been a huge hit on the festival circuit, but as Shane Black reveals it was hardly an easy sell... You made a conscious decision to take a break from the movie game. Why?
I think I just had an aversive reaction to Hollywood. Writing scripts is a laborious job that can be a real pain. And then when you finish them you give them away, which was very unsatisfying because it put me right back where I started. It was a gruelling process, coupled with the fact that I wasn't getting attention as a writer - I was solely being treated as if I was a businessman. The writing was difficult, I lost a few friends over the money and it didn't feel like fun anymore.
But you're back now, and directing as well. How did that come about?
I had this notion that I wanted to change everything - to have a bit more control over the material and have more fun - so it seemed like the thing to do. For a long time I'd assumed it was a lofty enterprise to which I could never aspire, when in fact it's very learnable and I knew a good deal more than I thought I did. I began to suspect I could do it, and then I became certain I wanted to. How did you come up with the idea for Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang? Because of my aversion to action movies, I started this piece as a romantic comedy. But it wasn't very good; it was very dark. A friend of mine, James L Brooks, read the pages and said he felt I was at sea - he didn't know where I was going with it. "You're trying too hard to be me!" he said, and I admitted that was most likely true. He said I should stop taking this giant continental leap away from the action movie and do a movie like Chinatown: a genre piece, but not an action film.
My footing seemed a bit surer in that direction; I could do a slightly more interesting, obscure piece without throwing out the concept of mystery and suspense altogether. And it was precisely that - taking a romantic comedy and turning it into a mystery suspense piece - that got me going, and all the ideas that had been circling had permission to land at that point. Robert Downey Jr has had his share of personal problems. Did you come up against any opposition when you decided to cast him?
The studios were quite reticent; there was the sense that Robert in a starring role was not a sufficient draw. So when we cast him there was lots of pressure to bring in a big name - a Harrison Ford, or a Mel Gibson. I mean, lots of luck! Gibson's not going to play a gay guy, that's ridiculous! Finally Joel (Silver) and I looked at each other and said, "Let's just get two good actors and make the $15m version of this movie we set out to make." Val Kilmer was fortuitously available at that time so we went that way. They may not be huge stars these days but they work brilliantly together... The guys have a unique chemistry together, so it feels like the bargain of the century to me. They cut their price out of passion for the work and the desire to do something different - Kilmer I know was particularly keen to do a comedy. It was the first time they'd ever been in a movie together too. In a way that's the real draw of this movie, more than either of them individually. So have you finally turned your back on the action genre?
It's ironic that I'm the one who's often equated with action films, because the movies I based everything on were thrillers - Dirty Harry, Point Black, Bullitt and The French Connection, movies which had action sequences but didn't revolve around them. The character-driven thrillers started to disappear as people wrongly copied things. They'd see a movie like Die Hard which was making a lot of money and make them with just the explosions, and without the characters and the suspense. Without pointing fingers there are too many, especially this year, that are just not compelling or interestingly written. If anything, Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang is a commercial for that old-style kind of filmmaking.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/films/2005/11/07/shane black kiss kiss bang bang 200 5 interview.shtml
Scriptwriting is the toughest part of the whole racket... the least understood and the least noticed. Frank Capra
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There was some chat here a few weeks back about the current trend to force almost any innocent word to serve as a verb. I freely admit to cringing at most of these, but for some reason one I saw today made me cringe even more than usual: BBC to trial high-definition TV Is this usage widespread (on either side of the Atlantic)? I've not seen it before.
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There was some chat here a few weeks back about the current trend to force almost any innocent word to serve as a verb.
I freely admit to cringing at most of these, but for some reason one I saw today made me cringe even more than usual: BBC to trial high-definition TV Is this usage widespread (on either side of the Atlantic)?
I've not seen it before.
Is "to trial" really any better than "to conduct tests of"?
Is brevity so important?
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There was some chat here a few weeks back about the current trend to force almost any innocent word to serve as a verb. I freely admit to cringing at most of these, but for some reason one I saw today made me cringe even more than usual: BBC to trial high-definition TV Is this usage widespread (on either side of the Atlantic)? I've not seen it before. Is "to trial" really any better than "
[nq:1]There was some chat here a few weeks back about the current trend to force almost any innocent word to ... production company people already consider what I think of as proper prose writing to be hopelessly old-fashioned, convoluted and verbose?[/nq] It's come full circle, ironically. Webster's lists the etymology of "trial" as 15th century French "trier", meaning to try. So I think
I have no idea why my previous post, on a totally different subject, should have appeared in this thread. MC, my apologies for the intrusion. I'll try again with the original message, so that answers, should there be any, don't also appear here. Bert www.bertcoules.co.uk
[nq:1]BBC to trial high-definition TV Is this usage widespread (on either side of the Atlantic)? I've not seen it before. ... production company people already consider what I think of as proper prose writing to be hopelessly old-fashioned, convoluted and verbose?[/nq] It's not current on this side of the pond. I read that article, by the way and I would advise anyone on the Brit side of t
[nq:1]I have no idea why my previous post, on a totally different subject, should have appeared in this thread. MC, my apologies for the intrusion. I'll try again with the original message, so that answers, should there be any, don't also appear here. Bert www.bertcoules.co.uk[/nq] I have no idea what you're apologizing for! (Or indeed apologising).
I personally have no problem with it, if it increases efficiency. "BBC to trial high-definition TV" conveys the same meaning as "The BBC will put high-definition TV on trial" with fewer words. I only have issues with changes in language when the accuracy of meaning is compromised and certain words like "***" and "***" take over all of the other, uh, adjectives and verbs.
[nq:2]There was some chat here a few weeks back about ... proper prose writing to be hopelessly old-fashioned, convoluted and verbose?[/nq] [nq:1]It's come full circle, ironically. Webster's lists the etymology of "trial" as 15th century French "trier", meaning to try. So I think we should all become indignant that "trial" was bastardized from a verb to begin with. ;-)[/nq] To say nothing
[nq:1]There was some chat here a few weeks back about the current trend to force almost any innocent word to ... production company people already consider what I think of as proper prose writing to be hopelessly old-fashioned, convoluted and verbose?[/nq] I just checked the Dictionary that ships with Apple not sure what it is, but I don't think it's AHD.
[nq:1]verb ( trialed, trialing; Brit. trialled >?tra?(?)ld>, trialling[/nq] [nq:2]?tra?(?)l??>)[/nq] [nq:1]1 ( trans. ) test (something, esp. a new product) to assess its suitability or performance : all seeds are ... the pup trialed on Saturday. ...which would indicate that "trial" is an accepted verb on both sides of the pond.[/nq] There is a further note: ORIGIN late Mi
[nq:1]Oh, and just to make a culture-bashing point, how French of you to consider anthimeria (now that I know the word, I'm using it at every opportunity) a bastardized usage, while many English speakers (excluding the actual English, of course) embrace it.[/nq] I flatulate in your general direction! jaybee