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Sex and Gender

Some insist that gender is a grammatical term and should never be used to designate sex.
Today's Washington Post (Tuesday, 2 December 2003, page A13) has an article about some people's difficulty in learning math. A quotation:

"There are battles over how to teach it, dissension over gender issues, questions about the causes of poor student performance, and no universal definition for 'math learning disability,' known as discalculia."

Could one substitute "sex" for "gender" in that sentence?

Also, any ideas on how to pronounce "discalculia"?

John Varela
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[/nq] I'm pretty sure those old cranks have been beat back. I think the present complaint is against the mindless substitution of "gender" for "***" as a euphemism. [nq:1]Today's Washington Post (Tuesday, 2 December 2003, page A13) has an article about some people's difficulty in learning math.

  • [/nq] I'm pretty sure those old cranks have been beat back.
  • I think the present complaint is against the mindless substitution of "gender" for "***" as a euphemism.
  • [nq:1]Today's Washington Post (Tuesday, 2 December 2003, page A13) has an article about some people's difficulty in learning math.
  • A ...
  • [/nq] "Gender" seems to be exactly what was meant here.
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In our last episode,
(Email Removed), the lovely and talented John Varela
broadcast on alt.usage.english:
[nq:1]Some insist that gender is a grammatical term and should never be used to designate ***.[/nq]
I'm pretty sure those old cranks have been beat back. I think the present complaint is against the mindless substitution of "gender" for "***" as a euphemism.
[nq:1]Today's W
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[nq:1]Today's Washington Post (Tuesday, 2 December 2003, page A13) has an article about some people's difficulty in learning math. A ... issues, questions about the causes of poor student performance, and no universal definition for 'math learning disability,' known as discalculia."[/nq]
How did that serial comma get past the paper's copyreaders?!
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"John Varela" (Email Removed) wrote on 03 Dec 2003:
[nq:1]Some insist that gender is a grammatical term and should never be used to designate ***. Today's Washington Post (Tuesday, ... and no universal definition for 'math learning disability,' known as discalculia." Could one substitute "***" for "gender" in that sentence?[/nq]
It is often necessary to use "gender" instead of "***" in med
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[nq:2]Today's Washington Post (Tuesday, 2 December 2003, page A13) has ... no universal definition for 'math learning disability,' known as discalculia."[/nq]
[nq:1]How did that serial comma get past the paper's copyreaders?![/nq]
Ah, but the comma's useful there, since it helps throw the reader back to "There are" before embarking on "no universal definition". The number disagreement does
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On 3 Dec 2003 00:13:05 GMT, CyberCypher

(*** and gender snip)
[nq:1]It is often necessary to use "gender" instead of "***" in medical articles, especially when discussing the risk factors for ... there is no possibility that it will be interpreted as (not) having sexual relations, but that is often enough impossible.[/nq]
John Money introduced the modern sense of the word "gender"
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oncle (Email Removed) wrote on 03 Dec 2003:
[nq:1](*** and gender snip)[/nq]
[nq:2]It is often necessary to use "gender" instead of "***" ... (not) having sexual relations, but that is often enough impossible.[/nq]
[nq:1]John Money introduced the modern sense of the word "gender" in the 1950s. Current acceptation in med / psy fields ... be used whenever the biological component is uppe
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"Adrian Bailey" (Email Removed) wrote on 03 Dec 2003:
[nq:2]How did that serial comma get past the paper's copyreaders?![/nq]
[nq:1]Ah, but the comma's useful there, since it helps throw the reader back to "There are" before embarking on "no universal definition". The number disagreement doesn't help the reader much though.[/nq]
At least the writer made it plural-singular-plural-singul
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On 3 Dec 2003 00:52:14 GMT, CyberCypher
[nq:2]Current acceptation in med / psy fields in Europe is ... should refer mainly to psychological and sociological / societal aspects.[/nq]
[nq:1]In medical articles, especially of the public health type, the biological component is usually uppermost. Often, phrases like "male gender/***" can be replaced by "men" or "boys" or "males", depending upo
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[nq:1]Current acceptation in med / psy fields in Europe is that "***" should be used whenever the biological component is uppermost, while "gender" should refer mainly to psychological and sociological / societal aspects.[/nq]
A pithy definition, sometimes emitted by anthropologists when pressed, is: "Gender is the social construction of ***."
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[nq:2]Current acceptation in med / psy fields in Europe is ... should refer mainly to psychological and sociological / societal aspects.[/nq]
[nq:1]A pithy definition, sometimes emitted by anthropologists when pressed, is: "Gender is the social construction of ***."[/nq]
Though not an anthropologist, I would very much agree with that definition.
David

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