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Hela Posted 20 years ago
Grammar

sentence analysis 9/12/06

0Dear teachers,02br
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001) A day will come 01b00when02b00 you will no longer remember my face. 02br
00Is “when you will no longer...” a relative clause? 02br
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002) Tell me 01b00when02b00 you will arrive. 02br
00Is this an indirect question? And “when you will arrive” a nominal clause?02br
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00All the best,02br
00Hela0-
  

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0 I think tense simplification in the subordinates could be applied in both cases:02br 02br 01i 001) A day will come 01b 00when02b 00 you no longer remember my face. 02br 02br 00 2) Tell me 01b 00when02b 00 you arrive. 02br 02br 02i 00(See01b 00 Swan02b 00, Practical English Usage, tense simplification)01i 02br 02i 0-

— Marius Hancu

  • 0 I think tense simplification in the subordinates could be applied in both cases:02br 02br 01i 001) A day will come 01b 00when02b 00 you no longer remember my face.
  • 02br 02br 00 2) Tell me 01b 00when02b 00 you arrive.
  • 02br 02br 02i 00(See01b 00 Swan02b 00, Practical English Usage, tense simplification)01i 02br 02i 0-
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0 I think tense simplification in the subordinates could be applied in both cases:02br
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01i001) A day will come 01b00when02b00 you no longer remember my face. 02br
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02i00(See01b00 Swan02b00, Pra
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0A day will come 01b00when02b00 you will no longer remember my face. 02br
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01b01i00when02i02b00 here is a conjunction word02br
00A relative clause is introduced by a relative pronoun. 01b01i00When02i02b00 is not a relative pronoun. consequently, there is no relative
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0Marius, please, would you tell me what Swan says about these cases? I haven't got the book at hand, unfortunately.02br
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00I'm glad to see that my analysis of the second sentence is correct. 05002br
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00But in the first sentence, isn't "when" a relative adverb? It can't be a conjunction of time since we have the future in the subordinating clause
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0That does not mean your second sentence analysis is correct, but that we are of the same opinion.05002br
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01font01b01i00when02i02b02font00 is an adverb and conjunction, but not a relative pronoun.02br
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00In modern English there are 01b00five02b00 relat
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0>Marius, please, would you tell me what Swan says about these cases? I haven't got the book at hand, unfortunately.02br
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00 I only have time to defend my arguments, sorry. 0-
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01font001) A day will come 01b00when02b00 you 01font00will02font00 no longer remember my face. 02br
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002) Tell me 01b00when02b00 you 01font00will02font00 arrive.02font02br
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0 Not sure why I saw a future in the main at 2. Wrong. 0-
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0Hello Marius02br
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00Neither sentence is incorrect.02br
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00Tense simplification means the 01font00future tense02font00 is not always unnecessary in sub clauses, and not that it is always wrong to use01font00 it02font00.0-
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01cite10Inchoateknowledge12cite10Tense simplification means the 11font10future tense12font10 is not always unnecessary in sub clauses, and not that it is always wrong to use11font10 it12font10.12blockquote
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0No02br
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00I meant what I wrote there.02br
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00sometimes 01b01i00will02i02b00 is an option,other times it is required.02br
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00not always unnecessary = not always is it so that the use of 01b01i00will02i02b00 is an option. Sometimes 01i01b
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