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Cho7712 Posted 14 years ago
Grammar
Semantic relation
A - 1John painted the picture in an hour.
- 2 John spent an hour painting the picture.
It is easily cathced that the first sentence entails the second one.
B - 1 John noticed the picture in a few minutes.
- 2 John spent a few minutes noticing the picture.
In this case, the verb 'notice' is apparently different from the verb 'picture' in some aspects.
Some article I found says, 'notice' is one of the achievement verbs and is featured to have instantaneous time span.
So to say, the entailment relation between B-1 and B-2 is very questionable, it is indicated by double question marks in the article.
No further explanation is found in the article, so I only depend on my guess to interpret them,
Here are the possible paraphrases and please check them on.
B - 1 : Not having had any attention to the picture, then John suddenly perceived there to be the picture. ---- ( )
(No previous actions, only emphasizing the punctuality of noticing)
In a searching game and stuff like that, John finally spotted the picture and it took a few minutes for him. ---- ( )
(after previous actions taken and then momentarily changing state as noticing it)
B -2 : Time spent to try to be aware of the picture ---- ( )
(for finding where it hangs on ; realizing its existence ---- ( )
(for figuring out what it stand for or expresses ; the appreciation of the art ---- ( )
There is an actual possiblity that B-1 can entail B-2 ---- ( )
- 2 John spent an hour painting the picture.
It is easily cathced that the first sentence entails the second one.
B - 1 John noticed the picture in a few minutes.
- 2 John spent a few minutes noticing the picture.
In this case, the verb 'notice' is apparently different from the verb 'picture' in some aspects.
Some article I found says, 'notice' is one of the achievement verbs and is featured to have instantaneous time span.
So to say, the entailment relation between B-1 and B-2 is very questionable, it is indicated by double question marks in the article.
No further explanation is found in the article, so I only depend on my guess to interpret them,
Here are the possible paraphrases and please check them on.
B - 1 : Not having had any attention to the picture, then John suddenly perceived there to be the picture. ---- ( )
(No previous actions, only emphasizing the punctuality of noticing)
In a searching game and stuff like that, John finally spotted the picture and it took a few minutes for him. ---- ( )
(after previous actions taken and then momentarily changing state as noticing it)
B -2 : Time spent to try to be aware of the picture ---- ( )
(for finding where it hangs on ; realizing its existence ---- ( )
(for figuring out what it stand for or expresses ; the appreciation of the art ---- ( )
There is an actual possiblity that B-1 can entail B-2 ---- ( )
Top answer
B - 1 John noticed the picture after a few minutes. (It means that John went in the room and didn't see the picture at first. ) - 2 John spent a few minutes noticing the picture.
- B - 1 John noticed the picture after a few minutes.
- (It means that John went in the room and didn't see the picture at first.
- ) - 2 John spent a few minutes noticing the picture.
- (Wrong.
- )
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B - 1 John noticed the picture after a few minutes. (It means that John went in the room and didn't see the picture at first. After a few minutes, he noticed it.)
- 2 John spent a few minutes noticing the picture. (Wrong. Use a different verb such as: studying / scrutinizing /
- 2 John spent a few minutes noticing the picture. (Wrong. Use a different verb such as: studying / scrutinizing /
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Thanks for your answer,
Then I can make it out that 'notice' as an achievement verb has no duration and only hold the meaning of instantaneous realization without any implicature of speaker's intentional behaviour. Is this right assumption?
Then I can make it out that 'notice' as an achievement verb has no duration and only hold the meaning of instantaneous realization without any implicature of speaker's intentional behaviour. Is this right assumption?
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The verb "to notice" would usually imply an instantaneous, or very brief, perception of something, after which there would be little or no lingering action of "noticing." For example: "When she entered the room, he immediately noticed her."
However, sometimes "notice" can be forced by the context in which it appears into a kind of lingering perception of something. For example: "Durin
However, sometimes "notice" can be forced by the context in which it appears into a kind of lingering perception of something. For example: "Durin
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You have the right idea. Notice has its origin in the same root word as "know" and "recognize."
It can be used in the imperative, so it can imply some intentional or directed behavior.
Art teacher: Notice the fine brushstrokes that the painter used in this painting. Notice the tiny details on the jewels and clothing.
It can be used in the imperative, so it can imply some intentional or directed behavior.
Art teacher: Notice the fine brushstrokes that the painter used in this painting. Notice the tiny details on the jewels and clothing.
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Anonymous For example: "During the evening he kept noticing a dark-haired girl whom he had never seen before at one of these parties."It is another frequent use, and a difference with other achievement verbs like recognize and know - which is mainly a once-off happening.
"Keep noticing" here means there were many repetitions of the actio
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Thank you so much for your answers,
And I was informed that there are two types in achievement verbs,
semelfactve(knock,jump etc.) and change of state(arrive,notice etc.).
The former is repetitive meaning in progressive aspect that I've known, the latter prospectve meaning.
Then, you indicate,
"Keep noticing" here means there were many repetitions of the action.
And I was informed that there are two types in achievement verbs,
semelfactve(knock,jump etc.) and change of state(arrive,notice etc.).
The former is repetitive meaning in progressive aspect that I've known, the latter prospectve meaning.
Then, you indicate,
"Keep noticing" here means there were many repetitions of the action.
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cho7712rather it is more inclined to the meaning of 'paying attention'. What is your thinking about this?No, a person can pay attention for a lengthy continuous time period, as in "Sonny was intensely paying attention all through the lecture."
Keep noticing and Keep finding are punctuated activities - a series of instances.
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Thank you again,
Your explanation gives me a clear understanding on this topic.
Your explanation gives me a clear understanding on this topic.
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