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Secondary stress on the word "Homeowner"
I am having an argument with my dad, and he insists he is right, but I am really not sure. With the word "homeowner", the primary stress is on the first syllable but I think the secondary stress is on the final syllable. My dad insists that the secondary stress is on the second syllable because it is on the first syllable of the word "owner", but I say that you can't apply that rule because it's a compound word, and hence the "own" gets no stress. What is the correct answer?
Cheers,
Matt
Cheers,
Matt
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[nq:1]I am having an argument with my dad, and he insists he is right, but I am really not sure. apply that rule because it's a compound word, and hence the "own" gets no stress. [/nq] If you are under 12 then your Dad is right, by definition.
- [nq:1]I am having an argument with my dad, and he insists he is right, but I am really not sure.
- apply that rule because it's a compound word, and hence the "own" gets no stress.
- [/nq] If you are under 12 then your Dad is right, by definition.
- But otherwise, I agree that you can't apply a rule, but I say that you are wrong.
- In my English there's no difference between the owner part of "home owner" (which I think is two words in any case), and the owner part of, er, "owner".
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[nq:1]I am having an argument with my dad, and he insists he is right, but I am really not sure. ... apply that rule because it's a compound word, and hence the "own" gets no stress. What is the correct answer?[/nq]
If you are under 12 then your Dad is right, by definition. But otherwise, I agree that you can't apply a rule, but I say that you are wrong. In my English there's no difference bet
If you are under 12 then your Dad is right, by definition. But otherwise, I agree that you can't apply a rule, but I say that you are wrong. In my English there's no difference bet
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[nq:2]I am having an argument with my dad, and he ... hence the "own" gets nostress. What is the correct answer?[/nq]
[nq:1]If you are under 12 then your Dad is right, by definition. But otherwise, I agree that you can't apply ... in the UK, which is a good start, but are you from Wales, Outer Hebrides, Newcastle, or central London?[/nq]
I'm from Buxton, Derbyshire, which is about 25 mile
[nq:1]If you are under 12 then your Dad is right, by definition. But otherwise, I agree that you can't apply ... in the UK, which is a good start, but are you from Wales, Outer Hebrides, Newcastle, or central London?[/nq]
I'm from Buxton, Derbyshire, which is about 25 mile
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You might want to check the line length on your news reader - I had to rearrange the quotations above.
[nq:2]If you are under 12 then your Dad is right, ... you from Wales, Outer Hebrides, Newcastle, or central London?[/nq]
[nq:1]I'm from Buxton, Derbyshire, which is about 25 miles south east of Manchester. I am 22 years old. My accent ... London one (which doesn't help!), not broad cockn
[nq:2]If you are under 12 then your Dad is right, ... you from Wales, Outer Hebrides, Newcastle, or central London?[/nq]
[nq:1]I'm from Buxton, Derbyshire, which is about 25 miles south east of Manchester. I am 22 years old. My accent ... London one (which doesn't help!), not broad cockn
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[nq:1]My argument is that the primary stress on "home" removes any stress on the second syllable as it is straight after it,[/nq]
Well, OK as long as everyone agrees that primary stress falls on the .
[nq:1]and hence the secondary stress goes on the "er".[/nq]
I don't hear the rest of the word (after ) as having any stress at all. Certainly the receives only extremely light stress, no
Well, OK as long as everyone agrees that primary stress falls on the .
[nq:1]and hence the secondary stress goes on the "er".[/nq]
I don't hear the rest of the word (after ) as having any stress at all. Certainly the receives only extremely light stress, no
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[nq:1]My argument is that the primary stress on "home" removes any stress on the second syllable as it is straight after it,[/nq]
Well, OK as long as everyone agrees that primary stress falls on the .
[nq:1]and hence the secondary stress goes on the "er".[/nq]
Hence? I don't hear the part of the word after as having any stress at all. Certainly the receives only extremely light stres
Well, OK as long as everyone agrees that primary stress falls on the .
[nq:1]and hence the secondary stress goes on the "er".[/nq]
Hence? I don't hear the part of the word after as having any stress at all. Certainly the receives only extremely light stres
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[nq:1]My argument is that the primary stress on "home" removes any stress on the second syllable as it is straight after it,[/nq]
Well, OK as long as everyone agrees that primary stress falls on the .
[nq:1]and hence the secondary stress goes on the "er".[/nq]
"Hence"? In my speech, I don't hear the part of the word after as having salient stress. Certainly the , if it receives stress
Well, OK as long as everyone agrees that primary stress falls on the .
[nq:1]and hence the secondary stress goes on the "er".[/nq]
"Hence"? In my speech, I don't hear the part of the word after as having salient stress. Certainly the , if it receives stress
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Bellman? Is that you?
David
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RIP Jaques Brel, died 09/10/1978
Also too young.
David
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RIP Jaques Brel, died 09/10/1978
Also too young.
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[nq:1]You might want to check the line length on your news reader - I had to rearrange the quotations above.[/nq]
I'm using Outlook Express 6. How do I do that? I had a look at the options menu and found something for auto-wrap, and that's set at 76 characters. Is that right?
[nq:1]Fran? Over here! There's a Buxton lad on the line![/nq]
Eh?
I've got Sky+, which is a type of Ti
I'm using Outlook Express 6. How do I do that? I had a look at the options menu and found something for auto-wrap, and that's set at 76 characters. Is that right?
[nq:1]Fran? Over here! There's a Buxton lad on the line![/nq]
Eh?
I've got Sky+, which is a type of Ti
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[nq:1]I don't hear the rest of the word (after ) as having any stress atall. Certainly the receives only extremely light stress, not more thandoes the . Could be argued that, in some pronunciations, the isn'ta syllable at all?[/nq]
The -er is a syllable, pronounced simply as the schwa, "uh", surely.
Cheers,
Matt
The -er is a syllable, pronounced simply as the schwa, "uh", surely.
Cheers,
Matt
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[nq:1]I am having an argument with my dad, and he insists he is right, but I am really not sure. ... apply that rule because it's a compound word, and hence the "own" gets no stress. What is the correct answer?[/nq]
Your dad is right: the secondary stress in "homeowner" is on "own". The "owner" part of "homeowner" inherits its stress from "owner" - that is, with stress on "own" and none on "er
Your dad is right: the secondary stress in "homeowner" is on "own". The "owner" part of "homeowner" inherits its stress from "owner" - that is, with stress on "own" and none on "er
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