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The17pointscale Posted 20 years ago
Grammar

schizophrenia subjects vs. subjects with schizophrenia?

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00i'm putting together a manuscript that compares schizophrenia subjects with normal comparison subjects and am wondering if anyone has an opinion whether 'schizophrenia subjects' or 'subjects with schizophrenia' is preferred usage...02br
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00i couldn't find anything in my manual of style, but a quick google search reveals that 'subjects with schizophrenia' is more common. still, i prefer 'schizophrenia subjects' because it seems more economical, is parallel in structure to another term in the manuscript (normal comparison subjects), and seems easier to work with in sentences.02br
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00i guess my question may boil down to three basic grammar queries: 02br
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001. in the phrase 'schizophrenia subjects' is 'schizophrenia' an adjective or part of a compound noun?02br
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002. in english, can we make almost any noun (e.g., schizophrenia) into an adjective? 02br
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003. in english, can we make almost any noun (e.g., schizophrenia) into the less stressed member of a compound noun? (and is there a term for that?)02br
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00anyway, thanks for your input...02br
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00-andrew0-
  

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02font 02br 02br 01font 00i couldn't find anything in my manual of style, but a quick google search reveals that 'subjects with schizophrenia' is more common. 02font 02br 02br 00I suggest that your first reference should be to 'subjects with schizophrenia', to define the term. Later references to 'schizophernia subjects'.

— Clive

  • 02font 02br 02br 01font 00i couldn't find anything in my manual of style, but a quick google search reveals that 'subjects with schizophrenia' is more common.
  • 02font 02br 02br 00I suggest that your first reference should be to 'subjects with schizophrenia', to define the term.
  • Later references to 'schizophernia subjects'.
  • Without that, perhaps people might even think that a schizophrenia subject was, perhaps, someone exposed to the results of schizopheria, eg the wife of a schizophrenic.
  • 02br 02br 00The same advice applies to the term 'normal comparison subjects'.
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0 'schizophrenic' would certainly work well, but given today's political climate 'schizophrenic' is no longer an option. patients with schizophrenia and advocates for the mentally ill argue that by using the term 'schizophrenic' we are defining people by their illness. it's a bit funny how 'subjects with schizophrenia' means 'schizophrenic subjects' but only the first word grouping is accepted.
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