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Satiety
Yesterday morning on the BBC Radio 4 programme Today (sic!), one of the presenters read out a piece to do with the feeling of satiety. He stumbled a bit on the word, pronouncing it something like "satiate-y", but was quickly corrected by his colleague.
I mention this, not to ridicule the presenter many of us would have been thrown by this word but rather because it's an interesting example of a word somewhere near the limit of most literate native speakers' vocabularies (I would think). There must be quite a sizeable class of words that one recognizes & understands without necessarily being able to pronounce them confidently.
As it happens, the main reason I know how to pronounce "satiety" is that I still remember the surprise with which I heard TS Eliot pronounce it, in his rather donnish voice, in a recorded reading of Ash Wednesday.
Nigel
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I mention this, not to ridicule the presenter many of us would have been thrown by this word but rather because it's an interesting example of a word somewhere near the limit of most literate native speakers' vocabularies (I would think). There must be quite a sizeable class of words that one recognizes & understands without necessarily being able to pronounce them confidently.
As it happens, the main reason I know how to pronounce "satiety" is that I still remember the surprise with which I heard TS Eliot pronounce it, in his rather donnish voice, in a recorded reading of Ash Wednesday.
Nigel
ScriptMaster language resources (Chinese/Modern & Classical Greek/IPA/Persian/Russian/Turkish):
http://www.elgin.free-online.co.uk
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), one of the presenters read out a piece to do ... [/nq] A friend of mine recently visited her daughter who is living in the rain forest of Suriname on a research project. When my friend described her arrival in "Para-mara-boo" /"p&r @ 'm&r @ bu/ I realized it was the first time in my life I'd ever heard the name of the country's capital, Paramaribo, spoken aloud.
- ), one of the presenters read out a piece to do ...
- [/nq] A friend of mine recently visited her daughter who is living in the rain forest of Suriname on a research project.
- When my friend described her arrival in "Para-mara-boo" /"p&r @ 'm&r @ bu/ I realized it was the first time in my life I'd ever heard the name of the country's capital, Paramaribo, spoken aloud.
- In my head it's always been "Para-maribo" /"p&r @ m@ 'ri bo/.
- I assumed she was pronouncing it correctly for having just been there and having a daughter living there.
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[nq:1]Yesterday morning on the BBC Radio 4 programme Today (sic!), one of the presenters read out a piece to do ... be quite a sizeable class of words that one recognizes & understands without necessarily being able to pronounce them confidently.[/nq]
A friend of mine recently visited her daughter who is living in the rain forest of Suriname on a research project. When my friend described her
A friend of mine recently visited her daughter who is living in the rain forest of Suriname on a research project. When my friend described her
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[nq:1]I never remember the correct way to say "detritus".[/nq]
It matches the Latin, which has /i:/: /d@'trayt@s/, in Smith-Trager.
Brian
[nq:1]I never remember the correct way to say "detritus".[/nq]
It matches the Latin, which has /i:/: /d@'trayt@s/, in Smith-Trager.
Brian
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[nq:2]I never remember the correct way to say "detritus".[/nq]
[nq:1]It matches the Latin, which has /i:/: /d@'trayt@s/, in Smith-Trager.[/nq]
Does the Latin version really have long /i:/?
I thought it was a short one.
pjk
[nq:1]It matches the Latin, which has /i:/: /d@'trayt@s/, in Smith-Trager.[/nq]
Does the Latin version really have long /i:/?
I thought it was a short one.
pjk
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[nq:1]Does the Latin version really have long /i:/? I thought it was a short one.[/nq]
So far as I can discover, yes.
Brian
[nq:1]Does the Latin version really have long /i:/? I thought it was a short one.[/nq]
So far as I can discover, yes.
Brian
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[nq:1]Does the Latin version really have long /i:/? I thought it was a short one.[/nq]
Would have to be /'detritus/ then, no?
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Would have to be /'detritus/ then, no?
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[nq:1]Yesterday morning on the BBC Radio 4 programme Today (sic!), one of the presenters read out a piece to do ... which I heard TS Eliot pronounce it, in his rather donnish voice, in a recorded reading of Ash Wednesday. Nigel[/nq]
I don't think of satiety as a difficult word at all though I can't say I've ever had cause to actually say it, and can't imagine when I might have heard it. The na
I don't think of satiety as a difficult word at all though I can't say I've ever had cause to actually say it, and can't imagine when I might have heard it. The na
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[nq:2]Yesterday morning on the BBC Radio 4 programme Today (sic!), ... donnish voice, in a recorded reading of Ash Wednesday. Nigel[/nq]
[nq:1]I don't think of satiety as a difficult word at all though I can't say I've ever had cause to actually say it, and can't imagine when I might have heard it. The natural 'best guess' mechanism leaps immediately to piety, sobriety, society etc.[/nq]
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[nq:1]I don't think of satiety as a difficult word at all though I can't say I've ever had cause to actually say it, and can't imagine when I might have heard it. The natural 'best guess' mechanism leaps immediately to piety, sobriety, society etc.[/nq]
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[nq:2]I don't think of satiety as a difficult word at ... 'best guess' mechanism leaps immediately to piety, sobriety, society etc.[/nq]
[nq:1]But there's interference from "satiate", and from all the words that end in -tion and -tial and -tient and -tious where the "i" has no independent sound.[/nq]
On the other hand, "equation" is usually /I'kweIZn/ although hundreds of analogous words e
[nq:1]But there's interference from "satiate", and from all the words that end in -tion and -tial and -tient and -tious where the "i" has no independent sound.[/nq]
On the other hand, "equation" is usually /I'kweIZn/ although hundreds of analogous words e
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[nq:1]By the way, I noticed the other day that Jay Leno consistently pronounces "illegal" (i:'li:gl) (or possibly ('i:li:gl)). Is this common in the USA?[/nq]
I'm not so sure I understand the IPA, but if you're trying to represent the word "legal" pronounced in the usual way, with a prefix "il" prefixed, then the answer is "Yes" immediately followed by the question, How else would you pronounc
I'm not so sure I understand the IPA, but if you're trying to represent the word "legal" pronounced in the usual way, with a prefix "il" prefixed, then the answer is "Yes" immediately followed by the question, How else would you pronounc
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[nq:1]There must be quite a sizeable class of words that one recognizes & understands without necessarily being able to pronounce them confidently.[/nq]
I once pronounced "behemoth". Since then I've learned the correct pronunciation, but have never had another opportunity to use it.
I'm probably not alone in pronouncing "centrifugal" with stress on the first and third syllables on my
I once pronounced "behemoth". Since then I've learned the correct pronunciation, but have never had another opportunity to use it.
I'm probably not alone in pronouncing "centrifugal" with stress on the first and third syllables on my
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