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R/W mispronunciation amoung black youth in England

I've noticed many young people mispronounce R, substituting it with W (Johnathon Woss is the only example I can think of off the top of my head.)
Have any studies been done on this pattern of usage, and what words would I need to include in my search terms?
Thanks very much for any help.
  

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[nq:1]I've noticed many young people mispronounce R, substituting it with W (Johnathon Woss is the only example I can think ... [/nq] It isn't really a mispronunciation, more a speech impediment. I wouldn't say it had a "pattern of usage".

  • [nq:1]I've noticed many young people mispronounce R, substituting it with W (Johnathon Woss is the only example I can think ...
  • [/nq] It isn't really a mispronunciation, more a speech impediment.
  • I wouldn't say it had a "pattern of usage".
  • Woy Jenkins was another example.
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[nq:1]I've noticed many young people mispronounce R, substituting it with W (Johnathon Woss is the only example I can think ... studies been done on this pattern of usage, and what words would I need to include in my search terms?[/nq]
It isn't really a mispronunciation, more a speech impediment. I wouldn't say it had a "pattern of usage".
Woy Jenkins was another example.

Don Aitk
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[nq:2]I've noticed many young people mispronounce R, substituting it with ... what words wouldI need to include in my search terms?[/nq]
[nq:1]It isn't really a mispronunciation, more a speech impediment. I wouldn't say it had a "pattern of usage". Woy Jenkins was another example.[/nq]
I substituted /w/ for /r/ when I was a young child. I got speech therapy for it in grade school. One name
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[nq:2]I've noticed many young people mispronounce R, substituting it with ... words would I need to include in my search terms?[/nq]
[nq:1]It isn't really a mispronunciation, more a speech impediment.[/nq]
Listen to "Mash Up" on this page.

[nq:1]I wouldn't say it had a "pattern of usage".[/nq]
I would, if it is not a speech defect but an accent.
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[nq:2]It isn't really a mispronunciation, more a speech impediment. I wouldn't say it had a "pattern of usage". Woy Jenkins was another example.[/nq]
[nq:1]I substituted /w/ for /r/ when I was a young child. I got speech therapy for it in grade school. ... of the Africans in Tintin au Congo (which has not been translated into English) appear unable to pronounce the /r/.[/nq]
It's no
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[nq:1]I've noticed many young people mispronounce R, substituting[/nq]
replacing, not substituting
[nq:1]it with W (Johnathon[/nq]
Does he really spell it that way?
[nq:1]Woss is the only example I can think of off the top of my head.)[/nq]
Have we already forgotten Fwank Mew-ah?
[nq:1]Have any studies been done on this pattern of usage,[/nq]
Dunno.
[nq:1]and what w
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[nq:1]I substituted /w/ for /r/ when I was a young child. I got speech therapyfor it in grade school. One name given to this phenomenon is "rhotacism."[/nq]
Rhotacism means adding or pronouncing an /r/ where there was none before. This phenomenon should perhaps be called "wotacism".

Do you think I could copyright that term?
By the way, does anyone know if Mel Gibson has retained t
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"Rhotacism" means many things. As a medical term, however, it is limited to imperfect pronunciation of /r/, as you can see by going to www.onelook.com , entering the term, and taking a look at the entries in the three medical dictionaries listed.
Of those, Dorland's Illustrated Medical Dictionary at

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[nq:2]It isn't really a mispronunciation, more a speech impediment.[/nq]
[nq:1]Listen to "Mash Up" on this page.[/nq]

[nq:2]I wouldn't say it had a "pattern of usage".[/nq]
[nq:1]I would, if it is not a speech defect but an accent.It is, of course, both. Ross, Jenkins and Muir have/had "speech impediments".[/nq]
m.
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One of Murphy's lesser-known sub-laws is that if one is unfortunate enough to have a speech impediment, the letter it affects will invariably appear in one's own name, as Jonathan Woss, Woy Jenkins and Fwank Muir surely discovered in their wather misewable childhoods.
The only notable exception I can think of off-hand is the botanist and conservationist David Bellamy but he was probably given
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[nq:1]One of Murphy's lesser-known sub-laws is that if one is unfortunate enough to have a speech impediment, the letter it ... given a waiver, since he not only can't pwonounce the letter "r", he can't get his mouf around "th" eiver.[/nq]
Ah, so that's why he changed his name from Jethro Throckmorton!

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