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Anonymous Posted 10 years ago
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Relative clauses for causatives

For the active causative sentence "I had the boy paint my house", are the relative clauses below correct?

- This is the boy that I had paint my house.
- It is my house that I had the boy paint.

For the passive causative sentence "I had my house painted", is the relative clause below correct.

- It is my house that I had painted.

But the above sentence is the same as the relative clause of the sentence "I had painted my house". How can we distinguish the meaning of the relative clause, is it by context?
  

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Anonymous For the active causative sentence "I had the boy paint my house", are the relative clauses below correct? Yes. Anonymous For the passive causative sentence "I had my house painted", is the relative clause below correct.

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  • Anonymous For the active causative sentence "I had the boy paint my house", are the relative clauses below correct?
  • Yes.
  • Anonymous For the passive causative sentence "I had my house painted", is the relative clause below correct.
  • Yes.
  • Anonymous But the above sentence is the same as the relative clause of the sentence "I had painted my house".
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AnonymousFor the active causative sentence "I had the boy paint my house", are the relative clauses below correct?
Yes.
AnonymousFor the passive causative sentence "I had my house painted", is the relative clause below correct.
Yes.
AnonymousBut the above sentence is the same as the relative clause of
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I see that all the relative structures above are correct. I think that the confusion is because of "had" and I see that it can be understood by context. The relative structures below are easy to understand and there is no confusion.

I got the boy to carry my suitcase.
- the boy that I got to carry my suitcase
- my suitcase that I got the boy to carry

I got my suitcase car
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Just because a sentence is syntactically possible, does not mean that it will be used. Some of these are so unnatural that you probably will never hear them.

I got the boy to carry my suitcase. OK
- the boy that I got to carry my suitcase OK
- my suitcase that I got the boy to carry
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I see better now. Thank you.
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AnonymousBut the above sentence is the same as the relative clause of the sentence "I had painted my house". How can we distinguish the meaning of the relative clause
In written form it may remain ambiguous, but in spoken form the inflection of the voice would be different.
The whole verb phrase would be said in one voice grouping for the past perfect wit
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Thank you, this information makes me understand better and clearer. I would like to ask something. Is it possible to use the short form of "had" in causative form, I mean, can we say or write "I'd my photo taken" instead of "I had my photo taken"?
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I see that it is not possible to use short forms ('ve, 's and 'd) of "have", "has" and "had" in the causative structure. Thanks.
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The two forms are active and passive:

(subject) (have) (object) (past participle) - passive
eg.
I had my hair cut.
I had my portrait painted.

(subject) (have) [(subject) (verb) (complement) ] - active
eg.
I had my mother cut my hair.
I had a famous artist paint my portrait.
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