Reduced relative clauses to participle clauses

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1.a. Trees which fell in the storm have been removed.b. Trees falling in the storm have been removed. ( Why can't we use reduced relative clause here?)2.a. Trees which fell in the storm have resulted in several accidents.b. Trees falling in the storm have resulted in several accidents.( Why reduced relative clause used here?)3.a. Teams which have completed the first round go into the quarter-finals.                                                           b. Teams completing the first round go into the quarter-finals.(Why reduced relative clause used here?)4.a. Students who need extra help should see a tutor.                                                                                       b. Students needing extra help should see a tutor.                                                                                           c. Students need extra help should see a tutor.( Which form should I use b or c. If I use two forms b and c, then do they express the same meaning?) Please help me I am confused.sources: 1.http://random-idea-english.blogspot.in/2012/02/reduced-relative-clauses-lesson-and.html  2.http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:IXK0ErWrNmgJ:www.mtsac.edu/writingcenter/dlas/Reduced%2520Adjective%2520Clauses%2520online%2520DLA.docx+&cd=5&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=in

CalifJim · Accepted Answer

roky00711.a. Trees which fell in the storm have been removed.b. Trees falling in the storm have been removed. ( Why can't we use a reduced relative clause here?)2.a. Trees which fell in the storm have resulted in several accidents.b. Trees falling in the storm have resulted in several accidents.( Why is a reduced relative clause used here?)

This is explained on the website.

We can't use a reduced relative clause:
1. when the event or action in the defining relative clause comes before the event or action in the main clause.

Trees which fell in the storm have been removed.
~~Trees falling in the storm have been removed.~~

unless it is the cause of the event or action in the main clause:

Trees which fell in the storm have resulted in several accidents.
Trees falling in the storm have resulted in several accidents.

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Roky0071 · Answer

I know that reduced relative clause is possible if the events express the continuity and reduced is impossible if the events express the single completed event in present or past situations. But in
1. "Tress fell in the storm have resulted in several accidents"< "trees falling in the storm.... ">( why is reduced relative clause "trees falling" possible?.Here I think "trees falling" expresses the single completed event)

2. "Teams which have completed the first round go into...."< teams completing the first....">( why is reduced relative clause possible?. Here "Teams which have completed" expresses the single completed event.)

3. "Students who need extra help should see a tutor" ( If I make a reduced relative clause then which one should I use a. "students need extra help should see a tutor" b. "students needing extra help...." or both of them?)

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