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Viceidol Posted 18 years ago
Grammar
"should" in subordinate clauses
0 Hi, everyone. I have a question about the tense in the usage of "should" in subordinate clauses. Please look at the sentences below: 02 br
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00 I' 01 b 00 m 02 b 00 surprised that you 01 b 00 should be 02 b 00 so foolish. (Does it mean "I 00 01 font 01 b 00 feel 02 b 02 font 00 surprised that you 01 b 01 font 00 are 02 font 02 b 00 so foolish."?) 02 br
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00 I 01 b 00 was 02 b 00 surprised that you 01 b 00 should have been 02 b 00 so foolish. (Does it mean "I 01 b 01 font 00 felt 02 font 02 b 00 surprised that you 01 font 01 b 00 were 02 b 02 font 00 so foolish."?) 02 br
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00 I' 01 b 00 m 02 b 00 surprised that you 01 b 00 should have been 02 b 00 so foolish.(Does it mean "I 01 font 01 b 00 feel 02 b 02 font 00 surprised that you 01 font 01 b 00 were 02 b 02 font 00 so foolish."?) 02 br
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00 Please help me solve my doubt, thank you! 0-
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00 I' 01 b 00 m 02 b 00 surprised that you 01 b 00 should be 02 b 00 so foolish. (Does it mean "I 00 01 font 01 b 00 feel 02 b 02 font 00 surprised that you 01 b 01 font 00 are 02 font 02 b 00 so foolish."?) 02 br
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00 I 01 b 00 was 02 b 00 surprised that you 01 b 00 should have been 02 b 00 so foolish. (Does it mean "I 01 b 01 font 00 felt 02 font 02 b 00 surprised that you 01 font 01 b 00 were 02 b 02 font 00 so foolish."?) 02 br
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00 I' 01 b 00 m 02 b 00 surprised that you 01 b 00 should have been 02 b 00 so foolish.(Does it mean "I 01 font 01 b 00 feel 02 b 02 font 00 surprised that you 01 font 01 b 00 were 02 b 02 font 00 so foolish."?) 02 br
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00 Please help me solve my doubt, thank you! 0-
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0 Yes for all, IMO, but only in a first approximation. 02 br 00 To many, esp in such contexts, 01 i 00 should 02 i 00 brings in an 01 b 00 element of chance 02 b 00 , thus more accurate readings would IMO be: 02 br 01 i 00 I' 01 b 00 m 02 b 00 surprised that you 01 b 00 should be 02 b 00 so foolish. 02 i 02 br 01 i 00 I 01 b 00 was 02 b 00 surprised that you 01 b 00 should have been 02 b 00 so foolish.
- 0 Yes for all, IMO, but only in a first approximation.
- 02 br 00 To many, esp in such contexts, 01 i 00 should 02 i 00 brings in an 01 b 00 element of chance 02 b 00 , thus more accurate readings would IMO be: 02 br 01 i 00 I' 01 b 00 m 02 b 00 surprised that you 01 b 00 should be 02 b 00 so foolish.
- 02 i 02 br 01 i 00 I 01 b 00 was 02 b 00 surprised that you 01 b 00 should have been 02 b 00 so foolish.
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0 Yes for all, IMO, but only in a first approximation. 02 br
00 To many, esp in such contexts, 01 i 00 should 02 i 00 brings in an 01 b 00 element of chance 02 b 00 , thus more accurate readings would IMO be: 02 br
01 i 00 I' 01 b 00 m 02 b 00 surprised that you 01 b 00 should be 02 b 00 so foolish. ("I 01
00 To many, esp in such contexts, 01 i 00 should 02 i 00 brings in an 01 b 00 element of chance 02 b 00 , thus more accurate readings would IMO be: 02 br
01 i 00 I' 01 b 00 m 02 b 00 surprised that you 01 b 00 should be 02 b 00 so foolish. ("I 01
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0 Palmer ( 01 i 00 The English Verb 02 i 00 ) calls this 'evaluative' should. It has the same meaning as when the non-modal form is used, according to Palmer. 02 br
01 i 00 I'm surprised that you [should be / are] so foolish. 02 i 02 br
00 And so on. 02 br
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01 i 00 I'm surprised that you [should be / are] so foolish. 02 i 02 br
00 And so on. 02 br
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0 > Palmer ( 01 i 00 The English Verb 02 i 00 ) calls this 'evaluative' should. 02 br
00 Jim, you quoted this much Palmer that I ordered it. It better be good 05 0 010id 1
00 Jim, you quoted this much Palmer that I ordered it. It better be good 05 0 010id 1
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0 Palmer and Levin are two of my bibles. 05 0 02 br
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01 cite 10 CalifJim 12 cite 10 Palmer ( 11 i 10 The English Verb 12 i 10 ) calls this 'evaluative' should. It has the same meaning as when the non-modal form is used, according to Palmer. 12 br10 Ge
11 i 10 I'm surprised that you [should be / are] so foolish. 12 i 12 br
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