Q42: 'Insist on...' and 'Insist that...'

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Hello,

Could you please check if the following sentences are natural and correct grammatically? Also, do they have the same meaning?

= I wouldn't insist on giving you anything until your birthday.

= I woudn't insist that you take anything from me until your birthday.

Thank you.

Fivejedjon · Accepted Answer

I suppose they are grammatically acceptable, but I can't think of a realistic situation in which anyone would say them.

Clive · Answer

Correct grammar.
I'm not sure what context you might say this in.

A simpler example.
eg She insisted on a kiss.
eg She insisted that I kiss her.

TomJ · Answer

fivejedjonI suppose they are grammatically acceptable, but I can't think of a realistic situation in which anyone would say them.

Thanks to you, fivejedjon, for your reply!

Actually, the context / the situation that I wanted to say those in is: I have a friend, a girlfriend, actually. I wanted to give her something, but she was refusing to take that thing, propably because I'm a student and don't work anywhere yet, and she didn't want me to buy her anything. So, could I have said any of those English sentences for insisting her on taking that thing from me? And actually this - Please don't refuse to take it. This is the first time when I'm giving something to you, and I promise I wouldn't insist on giving you anything until your birthday. - is what I wanted to say.

Thank you one more time.

TomJ · Answer

Cliveeg She insisted on a kiss.eg She insisted that I kiss her.

Hi, and thanks to you, too, Clive.

Isn't there any difference in the meaning(s) of the two sentences, please?

Is it that If we say "She insisted on a kiss", it's her who wanted to kiss? And If we say "She insisted that I kiss her", she wanted me to kiss her?

Also, when it (insisted) is followed by 'on', is it always that this structure (insisted on) is always followed by a 'noun' or a 'noun-phrase'?

Clive · Answer

Isn't there any difference in the meaning(s) of the two sentences, please?

Is it that If we say "She insisted on a kiss", it's her who wanted to kiss? And If we say "She insisted that I kiss her", she wanted me to kiss her? I think you are splitting hairs.Either way, she wants to indulge in kissing..

Also, when it (insisted) is followed by 'on', is it always that this structure (insisted on) is always followed by a 'noun' or a 'noun-phrase'? I can't think of a case where it isn't.

Q42: 'Insist on...' and 'Insist that...'

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