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Pructus Posted 11 years ago
Grammar

Put up

Hello...

A.
1. He put up a fight. 2. *He put a fight up.

B.
1. He put a tent up. 2. He put up a tent.

In the above, A2 is not used but B2 is used.
How the natives know this usage?
From intuition? Or English class leatning at school?
  

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Most native speakers will never have analysed the grammatical aspects of this issue. Many probably aren't even consciously aware that it exists. I think most people just know what "sounds right" based on hearing it said over and over.

  • Most native speakers will never have analysed the grammatical aspects of this issue.
  • Many probably aren't even consciously aware that it exists.
  • I think most people just know what "sounds right" based on hearing it said over and over.
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Most native speakers will never have analysed the grammatical aspects of this issue. Many probably aren't even consciously aware that it exists. I think most people just know what "sounds right" based on hearing it said over and over.
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pructusFrom intuition?
Yes. We know the usage mostly from the intuition we gain from experiencing a lifetime of hearing and speaking English.

The meaning of "put up" is different in 1 and 2, and we just know from experience that "put up" is inseparable when it has the meaning in 1.

CJ
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Thanks so much, CJ and GPY!!

Then, to memorize so many phrasal verbs makes it hard and then again, to find out if it's separable or not makes it even more difficult... Almost all the dictionaries don't even mention if it's separable or not.

So it's understandable that scholars mention that non-natives avoid using phrasal verbs....
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pructus to memorize so many phrasal verbs makes it hard and then again, to find out if it's separable or not makes it even more difficult...
Yes, but you have an opportunity to live in an English-speaking region and have to use English every day, you catch on pretty quickly without even trying to memorize anything. If you can't do that, one way to approximate

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